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* snip * two points on Israel

Seems like it would be such a simple thing to put a couple dozen 'combat air-controllers' in Misrata or something. But if a single one of them got killed and Gaddafi's regime got ahold of that info a shitstorm would ensue.

Absolutely or way worst if Regime force captured one of them. Nothing heard about placement of atttack helos yet, must be taking a while to organise.

BBC News - UN accuses both sides of war crimes

Gadaffi sent in cuffs to the Hague for trial, like the sound of this.

BBC News said:
In other developments:

* A car blew up in the rebel stronghold of Benghazi near a hotel used by rebel leaders and foreign visitors. There were no reports of injuries

And maybe Gadaffi is directing terrorism attacks too, location is the foreign jouranlists Hotel who are the people telling the world what the "Big G" and his regime are up to. He doesn't like that and is not used to it, why not blow their Hotel.

BBC News - Yemen: 'Thousands' of tribesmen march on Sanaa

This action is quite seperate from the ongoing peaceful grassroots protests. Looks like things are unraveling in Yemen and so long as Saleh is got rid of, is probably a good thing longterm.
 
Boy of 12 among dozens of protesters killed by Israelis

Twenty-THREE protesters, including a 12-year-old boy, have been shot dead by Israeli forces near the border fence on Golan Heights and a further 325 people injured, according to reports last night.

The violence happened as a large crowd of pro-Palestinian demonstrators approached the border to mark the anniversary of the 1967 Six-Day War.

Israel had vowed to prevent a repeat of a similar march last month, in which hundreds of people breached the fence.

The border on the Golan Heights at the town of Majdal Shams lies in a valley between two hill-tops, one in Israel and one in Syria.

An Israeli military spokesman said the soldiers fired at demonstrators after warning them to back away.

"Despite numerous warnings, both verbal and later warning shots in the air, dozens of Syrians continue to approach the border and IDF (Israel Defence Force] forces were left with no choice but to open fire towards the feet of protesters in efforts to deter further actions," said a spokesman.

On the Israeli side, locals - many of whom are Syrian citizens - from the Golan Heights town of Majdal Shams, shouted at the soldiers, calling on them to stop firing.

Meanwhile, the troops used loudspeakers to warn demonstrators in Arabic that "anyone who comes close to the fence will be responsible for their own blood".

Hundreds of protesters rushed towards the ceasefire line, trying to cut through a razor wire barrier and head into the Golan Heights in a repeat of demonstrations last month, which saw thousands mass along Israel's north.

"Our aim is to plant the Syrian flag on the occupied land," protester Mohammed Shaiber told Syrian TV.

The Israeli military accused Syria of instigating the protests to deflect attention from its own crackdown on a popular uprising at home.

"This is an attempt to divert international attention from the bloodbath going on in Syria," said Lieutenant Colonel Avital Leibovich, an Israeli military spokeswoman.

Last night reports of protests in Syria claimed that security forces had shot dead 31 people in the last 48 hours during demonstrations in the north-west town of Jisr. Protests against president Bashar al-Assad have grown, despite reform gestures dismissed by the opposition and a crackdown that has killed at least 1,100 people since the uprising erupted two months ago.

The Israeli military spokeswoman added: "In the end, we are guarding our border.

I wish they had obeyed our verbal warnings, but they chose instead to clash with the soldiers."

Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu told his cabinet: "Unfortunately, extremist forces around us are trying today to breach our borders and threaten our communities and our citizens.

"We will not let them do that."

Mr Netanyahu said security forces had been ordered to show "maximum restraint".

The US state department said it was "troubled" by the loss of life on the Golan Heights.

"We call for all sides to exercise restraint," it said. "Provocative actions like this should be avoided."

Syrian TV said more than 300 protesters had been wounded.

An Israeli military spokeswoman told the Jerusalem Post newspaper they were only aware of 12 injuries.

Israel seized the Golan Heights from Syria in the closing stages of the 1967 war, along with other territories including the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem. The anniversary is known in Arabic as the Naksa, or "setback".

On 15 May, tens of thousands of pro-Palestinian demonstrators marched on the borders with Israel, in the Palestinian territories, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon.

They were marking the 63rd anniversary of Nakba, which in Arabic means "catastrophe" - when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians lost their homes amid the fighting after the creation of the state of Israel in 1948.

At least 12 people died during the 15 May demonstrations, which at one point saw hundreds manage to cross into the Golan Heights.
 
BBC News - Royal Marines on standby to evacuate Britons from Yemen

Who the heck is still there in Yemen after all the recent crap that?s gone on? Maybe Embassy staff only, I hope. :rolleyes:


BBC News - What Saleh's departure means for Yemen's future

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President Ali Abdullah Saleh's opponents in Yemen have been celebrating as if he has gone forever. That might be premature.

The president's long time supporters in Saudi Arabia are giving him medical treatment for the wounds he suffered when his compound was shelled.

The Saudis want him to step down, and might increase the pressure now that he is on their home turf.

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Hope the Saudis persuade him not to go back and offer him a fully fuelled G5 and a stack of cash to bugger off.

:p
 
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Israel had vowed to prevent a repeat of a similar march last month, in which hundreds of people breached the fence.

The border on the Golan Heights at the town of Majdal Shams lies in a valley between two hill-tops, one in Israel and one in Syria.

An Israeli military spokesman said the soldiers fired at demonstrators after warning them to back away.

"Despite numerous warnings, both verbal and later warning shots in the air, dozens of Syrians continue to approach the border and IDF (Israel Defence Force] forces were left with no choice but to open fire towards the feet of protesters in efforts to deter further actions," said a spokesman.

Understandable. And make no mistake. The Syrian trucked them out there, pointed them at the fence, and more than likely provided the bolt cutters.
 
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Now I know that you know I meant Gulfstream V and according to Wiki, the Saudi ones are Medivac planes. Which as today's news may be more appropriate than I thought.

BBC News - Yemen: Saleh 'gravely wounded' in rocket attack

BBC News said:
Yemen's President Ali Abdullah Saleh was more seriously injured in a rocket attack on his compound last week than thought, officials have told US media.

Mr Saleh suffered 40% burns and has bleeding inside his skull after Friday's attack, US officials told AP.

Sounds bad, dosen't seem likely that he will go back.

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Today I saw some intersting BBC video of the enclave at Misrata being widened. The NTC forces are looking much more organised and military.

They were ringing the enclave using shipping containers to block off open areas for defence. Pretty clever and resourceful idea, I thought.

The Regime forces seemed to have pulled back and were only firing long range rockets, which the rebels were hoping could be taken out by NATO jets or helos.

BBC News - Gaddafi vows to fight to the death

Yeah, "Zenga, Zenga" Big G, sing another song FFS.

:rolleyes:
 
Fighting erupts in Zlitan, Turkey offers Gaddafi exit


BENGHAZI (Reuters) ? Heavy fighting between pro-Gaddafi troops and rebels broke out in a Libyan city just 160 kilometres east of Tripoli, potentially opening the coastal road to the capital, just as cracks appeared among NATO allies.

Gaddafi forces also shelled for the first time the world heritage-listed city of Gadamis, some 600 kilometres southwest of the capital on the Tunisia and Algerian border, opening a new front in the five-month long civil war.

World powers gave mixed signals on how the deadlocked civil war might play out, with Russia trying to mediate reconciliation. Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday he had offered a "guarantee" to Gaddafi if he left Libya, but received no reply.

With diplomacy stalling, rebels said fighting was erupting on new fronts.

Ahmed Bani, a military spokesman in Benghazi, told Reuters clashes had broken out in Zlitan on Thursday and resumed on Friday with Gaddafi forces killing 22 rebels.

Zlitan is one of three towns that are under government control between the rebel-held Misrata and the capital and were it to fall could act as a stepping stone to allow the anti-Gaddafi uprising to spread from Misrata, the biggest rebel outpost in western Libya, to Gaddafi's stronghold in Tripoli.

"Large numbers of troops are surrounding Zlitan from all directions and are threatening its residents with having their women raped by mercenaries if they do not surrender," Bani said, adding the rebels controlled parts of the city.

GADAMIS OASIS TOWN ATTACKED

Rebels also said the oasis town of Gadamis with a population of about 7,000 people, mainly Berber, was under attack after an anti-government protest in the old Roman city on Wednesday.

"Gadamis is being shelled by Gaddafi forces, according to witnesses in the town," spokesman Juma Ibrahim said from the rebel-held town of Zintan in the Western Mountains region.

"This is a retaliation to anti-regime protests," he said.

The old town was de-populated by Gaddafi in the 1990s and its inhabitants moved into modern buildings. It was not clear if the attack targeted the old town, a labyrinth of narrow, underground passages and houses known as the "Pearl of the Desert."

The accounts in Zlitan and Gadamis could not be independently verified and the Gaddafi government did not immediately comment.

In the besieged port city of Misrata, a doctor at the Hekma hospital said 31 people were killed and 110 wounded in government shelling on Friday.

The fighting comes after the United States accused some NATO allies on Friday of failing to pull their weight in the campaign against Muammar Gaddafi's forces, as the Libyan leader kept up shelling of the rebel-held town of Misrata.

"The mightiest military alliance in history is only 11 weeks into an operation against a poorly-armed regime in a sparsely-populated country -- yet many allies are beginning to run short of munitions, requiring the U.S., once more, to make up the difference," Defense Secretary Robert Gates said in a valedictory speech at NATO headquarters in Brussels.

Gates's exasperation has been echoed by rebels, who control the east of the country and some other areas but do not appear to pose an imminent threat to Gaddafi's rule.

TURKISH GADDAFI GUARANTEE

Turkey, which is a member of NATO, said Gaddafi had no way out, but to leave Libya and offered the him an exit.

"We ourselves have offered him this guarantee, via the representatives we've sent. We told him we would help him to be sent wherever he wanted to be sent. We would discuss the issue with our allies, according to the response we receive. Unfortunately we still haven't got a response from Gaddafi."

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, appearing at the Abu Dhabi meeting of the Libya contact group on Thursday, said talks were under way with people close to Gaddafi who had raised the "potential" for a transition of power but added: "There is not any clear way forward yet."

Under pressure to come up with plans for a transitional government while still in disarray, the rebels have said the onus is on foreign powers to hasten assistance.

"Our people are dying," rebel Oil and Finance Minister Ali Tarhouni said. "So my message to our friends is that I hope they walk the walk."

Gaddafi describes the rebels as al Qaeda terrorists and says foreign intervention is a front for a grab at the country's oil.

Mikhail Margelov, Russia's Africa envoy, who travelled to Benghazi on Friday, said he would go to Tripoli as soon as NATO provided a corridor through its Libyan no-fly zone.

(Additional reporting by Peter Graff in Tripoli, Joseph Nasr in Rabat; Writing by John Irish; Editing by Ralph Boulton)
 
BBC News - Rebels edge west at Misrata

BBC News said:
Libyan rebels fighting to topple Col Muammar Gaddafi have been edging west from the city of Misrata as they try to advance towards the capital, Tripoli.

Nato dropped leaflets on Zlitan, just west of Misrata, urging government troops to abandon their posts.

Meanwhile, Canada has become the latest country to recognise Libya's National Transitional Council (NTC).

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PsyOps by NATO, I am liking this.

Slow but steady progress by the NTC forces, also good.

But I don't know how the diplomacy thing works, what the upside and down side for Canada recognising the NTC.
 
BBC News - Libya condemns UK for recognising rebels as sole power

The UK government today recognised the Libyan NTC as the legitimate government of Libya, following about 30 other countries, including the USA, Canada and France.

Don't really understand the subtleties of international diplomacy, but this must be a good thing, I think.

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Being recognized as the legitimate government is ... everything. Recognition gives the NTC much greater pull on the international level. They can communicate directly and effectively with foreign governments through their diplomats. Having access to the courts in the nations who have recognized them will let the NTC immediately access any government funds previously frozen abroad. Recognition makes it easier for them to get arms and aid. But what might be the greatest thing about declaring the NTC to be the legitimate government of Libya is that doing so (obviously) means Gaddafi's government is illegitimate. There are a number of lower levels of 'recognition' that could've been bestowed upon the NTC, but recognizing them as the legitimate government of the entire state is a big fuckin deal. And it's a very good thing, as far as I'm concerned. I'm actually surprised that the UK didn't recognize them before the US.
 
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Ah true enough, the practicalities of recognition give you access to funds and another benefits.

BBC News - Islamist militia 'shot Libya rebel Abdel Fattah Younes'

BBC News - Libya's rebel chief who never won trust

BBC News said:
From the moment he switched sides and went over to the rebels in February, Abdel Fattah Younes was afraid of being assassinated - and with some justification.

Last February he was Libya's interior minister, as well as the commander of its special forces.

His close friend Col Muammar Gaddafi sent him to his home town, Benghazi, with instructions to arrange a Tiananmen Square-style massacre of the demonstrators who were planning to demand an end to Col Gaddafi's rule.

But the demonstrators struck first and captured him. Gen Younes immediately announced that his plan all along had been to come to Benghazi in order to join the rebels.

Gaddafi sends close friend and Interior Minister to Benghazi to arange massacre of Rebels, the Rebels catch him, he changes sides and becomes NTC Army Chief, but isn't trusted by some of the Rebels.

Then "someone" kills him.

Well that could be quite a long list of suspects, it would seem.

Gaddafi for Yousef defecting, some faction of the Rebels because they don't really trust him or AQ or whoever?

Libyan politics, a dangerous place to operate in, for sure.
 
For the last week or more there have been reports by journalists of positive movement by NTC forces.

BBC News - Libya conflict: Beginning of the end?

BBC News said:
After weeks of military stalemate things do now seem to be moving on the ground in Libya.

Nato claims that anti-Gaddafi forces are "assuming control of the key approaches to Tripoli". The Alliance's military spokesman on Tuesday argued that these advances represent the rebels' "most significant territorial gains for months".

The fighting is now some 40km to 60km (25 to 37 miles) from the Libyan capital.

To the west, forces loyal to the rebels' National Transitional Council (NTC) have advanced on Sorman and Zawiya, two towns on the coastal road leading west from Tripoli towards the Tunisian border.

A little to the south of Tripoli rebel troops are reported to have entered Gharyan.

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Now, this evening, we have this report:
BBC News - Libya conflict: Heavy gunfire erupts in Tripoli

BBC News said:
Explosions and sustained gunfire have been heard in parts of Tripoli, as rebels close in on the Libyan capital.

A BBC correspondent in the city says it sounded like exchange of fire rather than celebratory gunshots.

Residents spoke of clashes in the city, amid reports that opponents of Col Muammar Gaddafi were being urged to go on the streets.

Rebels earlier claimed control of of Zlitan, 160km (100 miles) east of Tripoli, and Zawiya, 30km to the west.


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Something's happening, by the sound of it and there are also some reports of "unoffical" talks between NTC representatives and former Libyan regime people from the Gadaffi side.

I reckon that when a regime like Gadaffi's becomes unstable and under pressure like this, it could fly apart very quickly.

And mea culpa for the double post, sorry but it is real news of progress, maybe.
 
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Apparently both of Gaddafi's sons have been captured.

Libyan Rebels: 'Colonel Gaddafi's Son Captured'
Libyan rebels have told Sky News that Saif Al-Islam, Colonel Gaddafi's son, has been captured as the end of the regime appears to draw ever closer. The claims come as rebels make rapid advances into the centre of Tripoli, meeting scenes of jubilation and no resistance from Gaddafi's troops along the way.
Sky's special correspondent Alex Crawford, accompanying the rebels, said as opposition fighters entered the city, their cars gridlocked the roads and hundreds of people came out onto the streets to greet them. The rebels responded with celebratory gunfire, she said. "These scenes are amazing - there are hundreds of people who have come out onto the streets to greet this convoy of rebel soldiers. You can hear them singing and dancing, it is an amazing scene. We are now just a very short distance from the centre, with more and more people are coming onto the streets. They (the rebels) had been expecting much more resistance but there has been very little. There is absolutely no question in their minds that they have beaten Gaddafi and it is just a question of how he will go," she added. The quick advance came after the fighters captured the base of the Khamis Brigade, 16 miles west of the capital. It is said to be one of the best-trained and equipped units in the Libyan military and is commanded by Col Gaddafi's 27-year-old son Khamis.
Aside from the main rebel movement from the west of the city, fighting also broke out in the city's Mitiga airbase, while the suburb of Tajoura reportedly also fell under rebel control. Gunfire was also heard near the hotel where foreign media are staying. As the rebel movement came closer to the capital, Col Gaddafi broadcast a message on state television calling on Libyan people to come from all regions and liberate Tripoli. He said he was "afraid Tripoli will burn" but that he will remain in the city until the end. The Libyan government also earlier appealed for an immediate ceasefire and an end to Nato's "aggression".
Spokesman for Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's regime, Moussa Ibrahim, told reporters the rebels were nothing without Nato and they would never be able to take Libya. "Tripoli is well protected and we have thousands upon thousands of professional soldiers ready to defend this city against any possible invasion by rebels under the cover of Nato." He added: "What is happening now and what is going to happen is not the power of the rebels. It is the power of Nato - a major force for evil that has no heart, using armed gangs to occupy a whole nation."

Rebels initially advancing on the capital came under sniper fire at the western gate of Tripoli, forcing them to retreat slightly. They then advanced again, taking in several towns along the way and then staged large protests around the city. Rebel fighters have also reportedly been engaged in gun battles in the town of Assadah, south of Gharyan, around 65 miles south of Tripoli.
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sorry to use scum news. BBC doesn't have the story yet. just on their breaking news bar.
 
Looking like the "End Game" in Libya, maybe.

BBC News reporting that Saif, Big G's leading son, has been arrested by NTC forces and confirmed by ICC.

The next 24 hours will be interesting.

A challenging time for the Libyan people, hope it works out well for them. :think:
 
Heard an interview on the radio about Bahrain. One of the doctors they jailed for treating wounded protesters, had a stroke in jail, but the neurosurgeons who should have treated him are also locked up, so they released him so he could go to Jordan for treatment!
 

Yup, looks that way in the main, but still reports of "pockets" of resistance both inside the city of Tripoli, as well as the eastern approach road from Misrata direction. Also, not seen any mention of Sirte which is "Gadaffi's birthplace" and tribal area.

Heard an interview on the radio about Bahrain. One of the doctors they jailed for treating wounded protesters, had a stroke in jail, but the neurosurgeons who should have treated him are also locked up, so they released him so he could go to Jordan for treatment!

Good that they did that and let him out for treatment, not so good that they were jailed in the first place.

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BBC News - Libya conflict: Where is Col Muammar Gaddafi?

Where indeeed, I am still not sure if he will stay to the end or bug out. He has seen what happened to Mubarak in Egypt and would not have liked it much.

With reports of three of his sons arrested, he must know it is over for him there, no matter how delusional he may be.

But he is an unsusal character and will do something surprising.

The US State Dept., has "no information" to date, regarding him leaving Libya. South Africa has denied he will be going to there, maybe he will go to his buddy crazy Hugo in Venezuela.

He could just turn up and check in to a suite at Claridges Hotel in London.
 
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