I am in the US right now. The amount of tires and other shit at the side of the highways is amazing, it's like nobody cares. Potholes in the cities that you can hide a whole Golf into. But then again, maybe we in Germany care more about the state of our roads because we are allowed to drive faster than walking speed and don't waste all our taxes on the military.
Right. You’re not trolling
at all for a response with this. I don’t recall anyone else bringing politics into this discussion, either....
Regarding the spectre issue
There is no Spectre “issue”. If you have a problem with the man, at least be grown up enough to address him like he’s present.
he has spamming half-assed knowledge from Wikipedia for years, one of the reasons I stopped visiting the forums for sure. There is no more interesting discussions going on that don't immediately get torn to shreds by the holy trinity of Level, Spectre and prizrak. So yeah, have fun with your echo chamber.
1) What sort of “interesting” discussion can you have when everyone agrees with each other?
2) an echo chamber of three dissenting voices (the ones you names) amidst a majority (or at least, significant plurality) Euro-centric forum? “Euro-centric” in this case not referring to location, but rather shared points of view. FYI to anyone upset, that’s not even intended as an insult. It’s like saying gaasc or myself have an “America-centric” view, which I believe would be accurate (though I don’t want to speak for him).
To me, despite having only seen one real life picture of spectre so far, to me, the mental image of him is best described by what I see here in the US: some old guy with a VETERAN hat who did one thing in his life and keeps repeating the same stories over and over again to try to stay relevant in times that don't care any more, while all his relatives secretly wait for him to pass so they can have peace.
What part of ^^this^^ is the civil discussion you claim you are seeking again?
The way you three are ruining the forums experience for everyone else, driving people to leave Finalgear or move discussions elsewhere is a disgrace to Viper, this was his lifelong project and you are ruining it. Why don't you just take a dump on his grave while you are at it.
You do not get to speak for the deceased, and your comments about the grave are a disgrace.
Spectre actually does have a breadth of knowledge, that he himself (I can say this because I recall him typing it) admitted can be superficial level for certain topics, obviously deeper for others. I can also attest that when he isn’t certain of something, he either reads about it, or he asks someone that is an expert for their advice. Can he come off as authoritative all the time? Sure! Is that a flaw? Fair.... but we all have them. And despite Beni’s (repeated) whinging about Spectre, I don’t see the latter engaging in mudslinging, all the while still helping out anyone here with car related issues who asks him for it.
Outside of the political section, Level is as pleasant as anyone here.
Prizrak, ironically, in the political section tries better than anyone else to look across the aisle. In here? Yes, he can be a troll (sorry, bruh, it’s true).
Are they mildly flawed or deeply flawed? It doesn’t matter, because as far as I’m concerned, they are certainly no more flawed than myself or anyone else on this forum. “There but for the grace of God go I...”
For you to accuse them of trying to destroy a forum shows a lack of knowledge of said forum. They’ve all been here longer than I, and I’ve been here (mostly) for eight years. In that time, they have been fairly consistent in their posting, and I have never seen this place lacking in traffic or vibrant discussion until the server issues began to crop up (which of course was for good reason). So that refutes your summary.
In fact, it is an easy argument to make that these three, along with most everyone else, helped to make this the thriving forum that it became, because of the differing opinions shared, fostering a lively discussion.
Anyone who demands this trio, as you put it, leave because they don’t like their viewpoints doesn’t reflect poorly on said trio, it reflect poorly on those making the demands.
If you can’t counter something that was put forth in good faith, then get a better argument.
I for one won’t say I’d miss
you if you were to leave, but I will say that about nearly everyone else, including those who I know disagree with me (and vice versa) on a regular basis. So what if I don’t like the cars/viewpoints/politics put forth by certain members? So what? This place is better for allowing everyone to express them without trying to turn it into a personal attack, or in your case, some deferred group victim status.
Chill the fuck out.