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Its ok, covid 19 is the first woke virus, haven't you heard...
Here's the New York Times article about Sweden. It hit the elderly hard due to inadequate precautions at nursing homes, but the death toll among everyone else was comparable without tanking the economy.
It has many unforeseen repercussions.
How much of Sweden economy will not be stormed by the global coronavirus economic fallout?
A loss of 7%-10% in GDP is the estimate of the Swedish Central Bank in 2020.
For comparison, the EU estimates, for Italy's GDP, a 10% loss.
Was that little difference worth all those preventable deaths?
Other than that, have you read the numbers I posted you in the other thread, comparing Sweden to its neighbours? What do you think of that tenfold increase in cases and deaths?
The Swedish method has only shown to be SOMEWHAT workable in Sweden; it was not a success, but Sweden managed to be on par with the rest of Europe. The US, Brazil and all the other countries that tried to do so have been swamped by Covid-19. What do you think of this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-paper-that-halted-hydroxychloroquine-trialsLancet retracts paper that halted hydroxychloroquine trials
The World Health Organization and several countries suspended randomised controlled trials that were set up to find an answer. Those trials have now been restarted. Many scientists were angry that they had been stopped on the basis of a trial that was observational and not a “gold standard” RCT.
We'll find out soon enough, the protests in the US have undone anything the stay at home order accomplished. The protesters that march down my street haven't kept social distancing. We will see a huge spike in a week or so if stay at did anything outside of damaging the economy.
There is nothing to find out. Sweden's economy is going down similarly to what is happening in other countries who actually locked down.
They bet and paid in lives, actual lives of actual people, and they basically got on par with others. They would have reached the same economic results by locking down, but they would have saved thousands of lives. Thousands of real people. Human beings.
They failed. They admitted it.
Good thing that they admitted it; it is impressive that they were so prepared that they managed without lockdown what normally the other countries managed with it. But they failed nonetheless.
Their economy isn't as hard hit as others.
On what basis do you say such a thing?
Have you read what I have written before?
Plus, you've got other users telling you that their Countries are faring similar or better than Sweden, economically, even though they locked down.
How do you explain that?
If things are similar without the lockdown, then it didn't do anything.
Sweden fucked up with the elderly, where they saw the most deaths.
In this country, unemployment skyrocketed after working class people were forced out of work.
One week, if we see a huge surge in the US due to the protests then I am wrong and the lockdown worked. In regards to the disease.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...-was-spreading-as-early-as-august/ar-BB15dy6nSatellite images of Wuhan may suggest coronavirus was spreading as early as August
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...f-lockdown-introduced-a-week-earlier-12004222Coronavirus: Number of deaths 'could have been halved if lockdown introduced a week earlier'
Coronavirus deaths could have been reduced "by at least half" if the UK had gone into lockdown a week earlier, one of government's former key advisers has told MPs.
How many deaths could have been reduced if the protests didn't happen?
How many deaths could have been reduced if the protests didn't happen?