Multi-cultural britain is pissing me off

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* 71% of over-55s compared with 62% of 16 to 24-year-olds feel they have as much, if not more, in common with non-Muslims in Britain than with Muslims abroad

* 19% of over-55s compared with 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer to send their children to Islamic state schools

* 17% of over-55s compared with 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer living under Sharia law than British law

* 28% of over-55s compared with 74% of 16 to 24-year-olds prefer Muslim women to choose to wear the hijab

* 3% of over-55s compared with 13% of 16 to 24-year-olds admire organisations like al-Qaeda that are prepared to fight the West


this is on the BBC to day

this is just daft, if you muslims want to live like that then im sorry but go back to your home country where that is how they live. Britain |= Afgahnistan

this is my country, it is british soil and i wont have you lot coming here and trying to drown out my traditions, culture and sayings.

that last one is just hypocritical..... they admire terror organistions who "freedom" fight against the west, yet are happy to come to britain - a westernised country - sponge off our socialist government with benefits, schooling, NHS, free driving lessons and free swimming lessons/sessions yet when asked they have the cheek to say they admire people like the taliban who fight to destroy the very things we are giving them? what a fucking joke.

so i say

if you

* want to send your kids to an islamic state school
* want women to wear the veil
* want to live under Sharia law
* want to support and admire organisations such as Al-Qaeda
* want to live with people with whom you have more in common with

then take the following course of action

GET THE HELL OUT AND DONT COME BACK YOU UNGREATFUL PIECES OF PISS STEAM

and i agree with david cameron "It shows the extent to which multiculturalism has failed"

and isn't he right, its failed big time and thanks to political correctness....normal native brits are the losers.

P.S. the free swimming and driving things might just be limited to my constituency, but thats besides the point. there are hard working native british familys who are too poor to send their kids to swimming lessons, i know because i know some of them, and even more who are too poor to help their children learn to drive.

these sponging gits come over, get it all free for being an immigrant then have the cheek to say they hate the western world (which comprises the country they now live and sponge in) it just beggars belief as to how ungreatful some of these people are.
 
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that survey sounds quite brutal, i bet the survey questions for that poll fixed to get such bias results... regardless, even tho i don't live there, I'm mostly in agreement with you... i really don't like how folks are trying take over places like that
 
You say "I won't have you lot coming here"...what about those that are born there?

Perhaps I'm reading wrong, but I don't see anything really being that negative. 74% believe women should choose if they want to wear the veil? That's good right?
 
well it depends who has done the survey, all surveys will have some bias... even if its small.

it was a poll by the center-right policy exchange and the reports lead officer is a muslim so its not like this was biased by whitey to make the muslims look bad.
 
You say "I won't have you lot coming here"...what about those that are born there?

Perhaps I'm reading wrong, but I don't see anything really being that negative. 74% believe women should choose if they want to wear the veil? That's good right?

not when you dont agree to the veil at all.

it should be banned from certain areas such as teaching, and they must remove it when asked by an body of authority like aiport police.

i know its muslim tradition to wear the veil but for me its a sign of seperation rather than the combination of multiple cultures like labour wants. i dont even know why they thought that would work.... different cultures are always going to have things they hate about each other..so why bother to combine them if its gonna create problems?

this is britain, why is it so hard for migrants to change a little to fit in with their new country rather than have it the other way round.

i went to afgahnistan and started acting totally british and demanding that i have pubs and london cabs and fish n chips and sunday roasts provided and i walked round in jeans and an england shirt....i'd probably be shot. yet they come here, and essentially do the same thing and we bend over backwards to accommodate them and what do we get in return? muslim extremists spouting their mouths and being ungreatful about the british people accepting them.

i have alot of muslim friends, but thankfully most of them are in the same boat of thought as me, that or they dont care and just wanna enjoy life.

again this is the minority ruining the image of the majority
 
not when you dont agree to the veil at all.

it should be banned from certain areas such as teaching, and they must remove it when asked by an body of authority like aiport police.

i know its muslim tradition to wear the veil but for me its a sign of seperation rather than the combination of multiple cultures like labour wants. i dont even know why they thought that would work.... different cultures are always going to have things they hate about each other..so why bother to combine them if its gonna create problems?

this is britain, why is it so hard for migrants to change a little to fit in with their new country rather than have it the other way round.

i went to afgahnistan and started acting totally british and demanding that i have pubs and london cabs and fish n chips and sunday roasts provided and i walked round in jeans and an england shirt....i'd probably be shot. yet they come here, and essentially do the same thing and we bend over backwards to accommodate them and what do we get in return? muslim extremists spouting their mouths and being ungreatful about the british people accepting them.

i have alot of muslim friends, but thankfully most of them are in the same boat of thought as me, that or they dont care and just wanna enjoy life.

again this is the minority ruining the image of the majority

First of all, the survey said hijab, not veil. The hijab is just a hair cover, not unlike a babushka. Banning that anywhere is just plain stupid. Are you going to ban hats next? :roll: (banning the veil in some public places I can see, but that should be covered by generic "no mask" laws, not by a special law just for veils)

Secondly, there are British people who go to other countries and don't bother conforming. Hell, they even used to import alcohol here just for the British and American workers, even though it was illegal for Saudis to drink it. Somehow we managed without having to shoot anyone. Just grow a pair and quit being afraid of other people, mm'kay?
 
Just grow a pair and quit being afraid of other people, mm'kay?

At the moment people have a good right to be scared, i know not all Muslim people are Terrorists just like not all Christian people are extremist but the Normal vs. Extreme ratio in the Muslim faith is a lot worse than it is for all the other major religions so if Western people are afraid of terror attacks and the group of people that are behind them i wont blame them.
 
* 71% of over-55s compared with 62% of 16 to 24-year-olds feel they have as much, if not more, in common with non-Muslims in Britain than with Muslims abroad
and you would be different if you were living somewhere in the middle east?

* 19% of over-55s compared with 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer to send their children to Islamic state schools
thats a minority, isn't it? and thats actually positive, isn't it?

* 17% of over-55s compared with 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer living under Sharia law than British law
minority again?
* 28% of over-55s compared with 74% of 16 to 24-year-olds prefer Muslim women to choose to wear the hijab
so they want them to be able to choose whether they want to wear a scarf, like my grandma does on cold days...isn't that good again?
* 3% of over-55s compared with 13% of 16 to 24-year-olds admire organisations like al-Qaeda that are prepared to fight the West
whats the bg deal here? younth will always reply in such a fashion in such surveys. if you'd ask white teens you would probably get 5% supporting certain right wing extremists and another 5% supporting certain left wing extremists.
there is no big difference really.
 
At the moment people have a good right to be scared, i know not all Muslim people are Terrorists just like not all Christian people are extremist but the Normal vs. Extreme ratio in the Muslim faith is a lot worse than it is for all the other major religions so if Western people are afraid of terror attacks and the group of people that are behind them i wont blame them.

*sigh*

Don't you know what a "terrorist" is? It's someone who uses fear, rather than brute force, to fight their enemies. The Muslims who are terrorists want you to fear Muslims. They want you to turn that fear into hate, so that you ostracize naturalized Muslims in your country. They want those Muslims to feel betrayed by you, to hate you in return, and to join the extremists.

A strong, united country is hard to terrorize. A divided country writhing with distrust and fear of itself is many times easier to scare into submission.
 
You say "I won't have you lot coming here"...what about those that are born there?

Perhaps I'm reading wrong, but I don't see anything really being that negative. 74% believe women should choose if they want to wear the veil? That's good right?
I read that as "74% of them like women who 'choose' to wear the veil, rather than choose not to".
 
"There are lies, damn lies and statistics."
Winston Churchill.

Still, interesting numbers. As for al quida, the question might be edged. Some may be forced to say "yes", because they might support liberation organizations of other types, if not al Quida.

Would be interesting to see what organizations they were in support of, or even only the idea of some sort of resistance to any type of occupation.

As for "liberation organization" and actually liberation organization, there's as much differences as there are within Christianity, or Islam for that sake.

The questions seem to have been worked out by someone with less interest and knowledge in the subject.

But yes, if this is correct, it's in many ways scary. But I do keep reservations.
 
Some muslim group here wanted a public pool to close off an entire day every week just so that the muslims could swim by themselves, I mean wtf if I wanted to swim in the pool by myself with my religion could I even ask that?

I think the biggest issue muslims have is the fact that they have a few leaders that are truely retarded, we had one shiek claiming that raped women were like pieces of raw meat left out for the dogs to have... Then he later claimed that muslims have more right to australia... somehow
 
Now...if there were no religions there would not be a problem like this would there?

(The hijab (veil) is just a choice that women have, they do not have to wear it but it is their choice. Yes I do agree that it is stupid and they should have to take it off for certain occasions but their choice is choice...but if there were not religions in the first place.........well thats another story.)
 
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What? I don't support terrorism, but there's a reason there's terrorism, don't imagine anything else. As for the means, I'm sure they'd much rather fight IDF than civilians, only has to keep in mind that Israel after all IS stong enough to bomb any country in the middle east back to the stone ages, while Hamas is a guerillia organization, they sort of need to target innocent civilians to make som demage. Back in 42, you couldn't reach Germany, and the wehrmacht, so you bombed Germany's towns. You killed nearly one million civilians, and you flattened most German cities.

The use of terrorism is the only tactical way of fighting. Sadly.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. As I said, I don't support terrorism, not at all, I just try to see things in another way than black and white. The world isn't that simple, especially not the Middle East. The biggest difference between Hamas and Israel is the equipment, the means are the same.

Israel has never recognized Palestine. PLO had to recognize Israel. If an arab country don't follow directives from the UN, they face sanctions. If Israel don't, the security council try to make them follow them, but the US put down a veto.

Israel has its responsibility, the arabs have their. But to be honest, Israel need to do their part. Bombing Lebanon for one, was not clever.

Israel will win a tactical war without doubt. If you view it strategical, I think they'll lose, in the end.

Terrorism is horrible, so is state terrorism.

Didn't the US support sanctions against the Apartheid regime in South Africa?
 
I think the biggest issue muslims have is the fact that they have a few leaders that are truely retarded

Actually, I think the problem is that Islam doesn't have any leaders. Which is why I actually support restoring the Caliphate. Not that it should have any kind of power. Considering all the divisions though, it would probably be impossible to spread any kind of unified message.
 
Now...if there were no religions there would not be a problem like this would there?

(The hijab (veil) is just a choice that women have, they do not have to wear it but it is their choice. Yes I do agree that it is stupid and they should have to take it off for certain occasions but their choice is choice...but if there were not religions in the first place.........well thats another story.)


It's not a choice for many women (relatives, husband...). You just need to go to Morocco to see all the guys calling "gazelle" women not wearing headscarves. I'm definitely against this, it's one of the many aspects of Muslim tradition (not religion) which lowers women social status. You can see a family going to the town market, the women HAS TO stay behind the husband with their children.
 
Actually, I think the problem is that Islam doesn't have any leaders. Which is why I actually support restoring the Caliphate. Not that it should have any kind of power. Considering all the divisions though, it would probably be impossible to spread any kind of unified message.

The guy is the head of a mosque, I would call that a leader.
 
It's not a choice for many women (relatives, husband...). You just need to go to Morocco to see all the guys calling "gazelle" women not wearing headscarves. I'm definitely against this, it's one of the many aspects of Muslim tradition (not religion) which lowers women social status. You can see a family going to the town market, the women HAS TO stay behind the husband with their children.

That's not Muslim tradition, then it would be religion, it's cultural tradition. Fact of the matter is, the Koran prohibits killing anyone who has not done you demage. It's like the Catholic Church did for centuries, they took something, kept out something else.

Extremists are extremists, no matter what religion.
 
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