chitownjeff
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You don't mess with a knight!
2007 Formula 1 Season
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Mosely wants to be sued I think.
Responding to the response
FIA President Max Mosley has responded to Jackie Stewart's response to Mosley's response to his original remarks about the way the FIA is being run at the moment.
"Jackie Stewart's latest comments are as misconceived as those he made prior to the McLaren World Council hearing in September," Mosley says. "During a highly charged and controversial season it is of course understandable that many in the United Kingdom feel great sympathy for the plight of McLaren and Lewis Hamilton. In the same way it is understandable for many on the Continent to feel great sympathy for the plight of double World Champion Fernando Alonso. However, it is not the role of the FIA to court popularity by supporting one party or the other. It is the role of the FIA to ensure that the rules of the sport are respected and that fairness is applied consistently for all competitors.
"When the Spanish motor sport authority seeks safeguards to ensure fair play should the international governing body ignore their request?
"The bandying of partisan and ill informed comments in the media may well result in increased book sales for his new autobiography but they can do little more than confirm the widely held view that Jackie talks but never listens and clearly does not understand even the most basic realities of motor sport governance."
This is not very polite and no doubt Jackie Stewart will have a suitable response at some point.
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Responding to the response
FIA President Max Mosley has responded to Jackie Stewart's response to Mosley's response to his original remarks about the way the FIA is being run at the moment.
"Jackie Stewart's latest comments are as misconceived as those he made prior to the McLaren World Council hearing in September," Mosley says. "During a highly charged and controversial season it is of course understandable that many in the United Kingdom feel great sympathy for the plight of McLaren and Lewis Hamilton. In the same way it is understandable for many on the Continent to feel great sympathy for the plight of double World Champion Fernando Alonso. However, it is not the role of the FIA to court popularity by supporting one party or the other. It is the role of the FIA to ensure that the rules of the sport are respected and that fairness is applied consistently for all competitors.
"When the Spanish motor sport authority seeks safeguards to ensure fair play should the international governing body ignore their request?
"The bandying of partisan and ill informed comments in the media may well result in increased book sales for his new autobiography but they can do little more than confirm the widely held view that Jackie talks but never listens and clearly does not understand even the most basic realities of motor sport governance."
This is not very polite and no doubt Jackie Stewart will have a suitable response at some point.
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mclarensmps
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And where was this idiot from 2000 to 2006? I didn't see anyone sitting at the Ferrari garage making sure RB was being treated as an equal to MS.
HondaF1
Aussie Bastard
Lauda: McLaren should sue Alonso
Three-time world champion Niki Lauda has lambasted Fernando Alonso for his behaviour towards McLaren ? and believes team boss Ron Dennis should threaten to sue the Spaniard to shock him out of his current mental state.
Alonso has been at loggerheads with McLaren, and Dennis in particular, since the Hungarian Grand Prix, where he was penalised for obstructing team-mate Lewis Hamilton in the pit lane during qualifying after Hamilton had disobeyed team instructions earlier in the session.
Afterwards, in a heated exchange with Dennis he reportedly threatened to reveal damaging evidence about the ?spygate? case to the FIA unless he was given priority status within the team ? only to retract the threat later on.
Since then he has vented his frustration about his treatment by McLaren and appeared to suggest to the Spanish media that the team was sabotaging his title hopes by giving him incorrect tyre pressures in Chinese GP qualifying.
Lauda, who won the last of his three world championships with McLaren in 1984, says he struggles to comprehend Alonso?s behaviour in recent months.
?It?s unbelievable,? said the Austrian.
?How can he do this? I had my times with Ron, he?s not an easy man, but I always knew the limit ? I cannot damage my sponsors and I cannot damage the people who pay my money.?
Asked whether he had any sympathy for Alonso given that he feels isolated within the team, Lauda said: ?None at all, to be honest.
?I have never in my life seen a guy behaving the way he is because, in my upbringing, there has to be a minimum respect.
?If you are employed by someone who pays your salary you have to behave according to what they expect you to do, which is even written in a contract.
?I was amazed when he said he tested the car, found six tenths and so why is he not number one?
?F***, he knew he was never number one. There were two drivers signed up and that was it.
?I heard that when Ron walks into the building and says hello, the boss to his employee, he looks away.
?This is not normal education. Maybe in Spain they don?t educate themselves in these villages where he comes from, but all these things I do not understand.
?In fact, I wonder how he was able to win two world championships with this attitude.?
Lauda believes McLaren would be justified in suing Alonso for breaching his contractual obligations to the team and its sponsors.
?If I was in charge of McLaren the first thing I would do in Brazil, at the last race, I would give him a court case for damage he has done to McLaren and Mercedes,? he said.
?Because in every contract we all know there are certain rules that if you get paid by someone, you cannot say it is sh*t.
?So if Mercedes can prove that people will not buy a car because of Alonso?s attitude, there?s damage.
?So the first thing I?d do to get things straight is say, I?m suing you for so many dollars. Then let?s sit down, you have a contract my guy, and you drive...?
Lauda admits McLaren would not want to lose a driver of Alonso?s talent to another team, but reckons the threat of a court action just might be enough to make him mend his ways.
?You must get his head straight,? he said.
?You know, sometimes sportsmen aren?t very intelligent, let?s put it this way, and maybe have wrong managers.
?They get driven by all these crazy ideas ? it?s not my fault, it?s their fault and I can do what I want, and f*** them, and Ron, I don?t even say hello.
?But if you face him with a court case for damage and tell him he has to fulfil his contract, suddenly maybe his brain gets a little bit of a shock.
?And maybe then you can bring him back, because that is really what the outcome should be.
?But as it is developing at the moment, I think it?s really tough to bring him out of his mental state.?
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Well, don't hold back on your thoughts Niki!!
Three-time world champion Niki Lauda has lambasted Fernando Alonso for his behaviour towards McLaren ? and believes team boss Ron Dennis should threaten to sue the Spaniard to shock him out of his current mental state.
Alonso has been at loggerheads with McLaren, and Dennis in particular, since the Hungarian Grand Prix, where he was penalised for obstructing team-mate Lewis Hamilton in the pit lane during qualifying after Hamilton had disobeyed team instructions earlier in the session.
Afterwards, in a heated exchange with Dennis he reportedly threatened to reveal damaging evidence about the ?spygate? case to the FIA unless he was given priority status within the team ? only to retract the threat later on.
Since then he has vented his frustration about his treatment by McLaren and appeared to suggest to the Spanish media that the team was sabotaging his title hopes by giving him incorrect tyre pressures in Chinese GP qualifying.
Lauda, who won the last of his three world championships with McLaren in 1984, says he struggles to comprehend Alonso?s behaviour in recent months.
?It?s unbelievable,? said the Austrian.
?How can he do this? I had my times with Ron, he?s not an easy man, but I always knew the limit ? I cannot damage my sponsors and I cannot damage the people who pay my money.?
Asked whether he had any sympathy for Alonso given that he feels isolated within the team, Lauda said: ?None at all, to be honest.
?I have never in my life seen a guy behaving the way he is because, in my upbringing, there has to be a minimum respect.
?If you are employed by someone who pays your salary you have to behave according to what they expect you to do, which is even written in a contract.
?I was amazed when he said he tested the car, found six tenths and so why is he not number one?
?F***, he knew he was never number one. There were two drivers signed up and that was it.
?I heard that when Ron walks into the building and says hello, the boss to his employee, he looks away.
?This is not normal education. Maybe in Spain they don?t educate themselves in these villages where he comes from, but all these things I do not understand.
?In fact, I wonder how he was able to win two world championships with this attitude.?
Lauda believes McLaren would be justified in suing Alonso for breaching his contractual obligations to the team and its sponsors.
?If I was in charge of McLaren the first thing I would do in Brazil, at the last race, I would give him a court case for damage he has done to McLaren and Mercedes,? he said.
?Because in every contract we all know there are certain rules that if you get paid by someone, you cannot say it is sh*t.
?So if Mercedes can prove that people will not buy a car because of Alonso?s attitude, there?s damage.
?So the first thing I?d do to get things straight is say, I?m suing you for so many dollars. Then let?s sit down, you have a contract my guy, and you drive...?
Lauda admits McLaren would not want to lose a driver of Alonso?s talent to another team, but reckons the threat of a court action just might be enough to make him mend his ways.
?You must get his head straight,? he said.
?You know, sometimes sportsmen aren?t very intelligent, let?s put it this way, and maybe have wrong managers.
?They get driven by all these crazy ideas ? it?s not my fault, it?s their fault and I can do what I want, and f*** them, and Ron, I don?t even say hello.
?But if you face him with a court case for damage and tell him he has to fulfil his contract, suddenly maybe his brain gets a little bit of a shock.
?And maybe then you can bring him back, because that is really what the outcome should be.
?But as it is developing at the moment, I think it?s really tough to bring him out of his mental state.?
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Well, don't hold back on your thoughts Niki!!
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Yeehaa go Niki. I think it is wise words. Alonso needs to get over himself big time.
HondaF1
Aussie Bastard
VIVA LAS VEGAS!
BMW Sauber have announced that they are to take their ?Pit Lane Park? to Las Vegas in January, appearing as an attraction at the Consumer Electronics Show.
Quite why a bunch of American computer nerds, who wouldn?t know an F1 car if they tripped over it, should be interested is anybody?s guess ? but hey, it?ll be a nice jolly for the team.
Nobody is more excited than Robert Kubica, who is said to be really looking forward to his first trip to Vegas.
According to his Wikipedia entry (and we know how reliable that can be) Robert was the 1997 Polish junior cards champion, before he turned his attention to karting.
A source close to the team told us: ?Robert still gets very excited at the sight of a game of cards ? indeed, it was a bit embarrassing when, as a VIP guest at the Polish premiere of Casino Royale he shouted ?snap!? right at the crucial moment during the poker scene.?
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BMW Sauber have announced that they are to take their ?Pit Lane Park? to Las Vegas in January, appearing as an attraction at the Consumer Electronics Show.
Quite why a bunch of American computer nerds, who wouldn?t know an F1 car if they tripped over it, should be interested is anybody?s guess ? but hey, it?ll be a nice jolly for the team.
Nobody is more excited than Robert Kubica, who is said to be really looking forward to his first trip to Vegas.
According to his Wikipedia entry (and we know how reliable that can be) Robert was the 1997 Polish junior cards champion, before he turned his attention to karting.
A source close to the team told us: ?Robert still gets very excited at the sight of a game of cards ? indeed, it was a bit embarrassing when, as a VIP guest at the Polish premiere of Casino Royale he shouted ?snap!? right at the crucial moment during the poker scene.?
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HondaF1
Aussie Bastard
Toyota bid Schumacher a fond farewell
He may not have scored any points in his final appearance for Toyota, but that didn?t stop the team marking Ralf Schumacher?s departure in style at Interlagos on Sunday.
After three years with the Japanese squad, Schumacher completed his last race with them in 11th place, but before that his colleagues gathered together in the pits to present him with a rear wing end plate, signed by the team, as well as a 10kg cake.
Chairman and Toyota team principal Tadashi Yamashina said: ?I would like to thank Ralf for his contribution to the team. We have had some good times together, even though we have not had the results we all expected.
?Ralf brought valuable experience to the team and helped us move forward. He has worked well with the team and in many ways we are sorry our relationship is coming to an end. However, circumstances change and we wish Ralf all the best in his future career.?
Team President John Howett said: ?We will all remember Ralf?s podium finishes with Panasonic Toyota Racing with great fondness and we are proud of those results. When we signed Ralf to the team we expected him to bring a great deal of experience which would help the team progress and that is exactly what he did.
?Even though his time with the team is ending, we still have a good relationship with Ralf and I speak for the whole team in saying thank you and good luck.?
Dieter Gass, chief race and test engineer, said: ?I have enjoyed working with Ralf and I want to say thank you to him for his hard work over the past three years. He is a straightforward guy and a pleasure to work with.
?I will remember some great results together, particularly his three podium finishes and his pole position in Japan in 2005. In my position you really spend a huge amount of time with your driver and over the three years I have got to know Ralf very well. I hope he enjoys a successful future.?
Team manager Richard Cregan added: ?Ralf has been a valuable and committed member of the team. We have enjoyed having him here and I hope he has enjoyed being here. Ralf formed a close bond with his mechanics over the three years so I thank him for his efforts and wish him success in whatever he chooses to do next.?
Since joining Toyota for the 2005 season, Schumacher has scored three podium finishes, one pole position and 70 points. He has yet to confirm his plans for 2008.
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:lol: When Panis left they gave him his Toyota F1 car. Ralf leaves and he gets a Rear Wing Endplate.
Oh, and look at the hottie they got him on the right hand side... :lol
He may not have scored any points in his final appearance for Toyota, but that didn?t stop the team marking Ralf Schumacher?s departure in style at Interlagos on Sunday.
After three years with the Japanese squad, Schumacher completed his last race with them in 11th place, but before that his colleagues gathered together in the pits to present him with a rear wing end plate, signed by the team, as well as a 10kg cake.
Chairman and Toyota team principal Tadashi Yamashina said: ?I would like to thank Ralf for his contribution to the team. We have had some good times together, even though we have not had the results we all expected.
?Ralf brought valuable experience to the team and helped us move forward. He has worked well with the team and in many ways we are sorry our relationship is coming to an end. However, circumstances change and we wish Ralf all the best in his future career.?
Team President John Howett said: ?We will all remember Ralf?s podium finishes with Panasonic Toyota Racing with great fondness and we are proud of those results. When we signed Ralf to the team we expected him to bring a great deal of experience which would help the team progress and that is exactly what he did.
?Even though his time with the team is ending, we still have a good relationship with Ralf and I speak for the whole team in saying thank you and good luck.?
Dieter Gass, chief race and test engineer, said: ?I have enjoyed working with Ralf and I want to say thank you to him for his hard work over the past three years. He is a straightforward guy and a pleasure to work with.
?I will remember some great results together, particularly his three podium finishes and his pole position in Japan in 2005. In my position you really spend a huge amount of time with your driver and over the three years I have got to know Ralf very well. I hope he enjoys a successful future.?
Team manager Richard Cregan added: ?Ralf has been a valuable and committed member of the team. We have enjoyed having him here and I hope he has enjoyed being here. Ralf formed a close bond with his mechanics over the three years so I thank him for his efforts and wish him success in whatever he chooses to do next.?
Since joining Toyota for the 2005 season, Schumacher has scored three podium finishes, one pole position and 70 points. He has yet to confirm his plans for 2008.
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:lol: When Panis left they gave him his Toyota F1 car. Ralf leaves and he gets a Rear Wing Endplate.
Oh, and look at the hottie they got him on the right hand side... :lol
fbc
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And it's still more than he deserves.
fbc
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^ Trulli deserves better than that...
pfrocker
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Sniffpetrol: :lol::lol:
teletubby-warrior
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Red_Bull
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Dennis is right. The way the internet works allows people to add news items the minute they break which means it's effectively 24 hours nonstop coverage. Most of the time, the news item is false or extremely misleading, and McLaren have been a victim of this through-out the year with Spygate and the Alonso/Hamilton battle.
It's very hard for teams to respond quickly and effectively to such stories, and McLaren's public relations department has certainly been busy through-out the year, trying to counter all the rumours and untruths floating around. Ron Dennis is obviously at the front line as the figure head of McLaren and as such has copped a lot of flak this year. But this means that the public can get an unrealistic view of what is actually going on and it hurts the team's image. I can see Ron's point exactly, and I think its extremely hypocritical and downright bigoted of Gazetta dello Rubbish to be criticising Dennis's views. The Italian media have been almost embarrassing in their anti-McLaren stance so consequently I think we can safey ignore any views they might have about the team.
It's very hard for teams to respond quickly and effectively to such stories, and McLaren's public relations department has certainly been busy through-out the year, trying to counter all the rumours and untruths floating around. Ron Dennis is obviously at the front line as the figure head of McLaren and as such has copped a lot of flak this year. But this means that the public can get an unrealistic view of what is actually going on and it hurts the team's image. I can see Ron's point exactly, and I think its extremely hypocritical and downright bigoted of Gazetta dello Rubbish to be criticising Dennis's views. The Italian media have been almost embarrassing in their anti-McLaren stance so consequently I think we can safey ignore any views they might have about the team.
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I ignore any views they have about F1 entirely.