Pretty soon the "Stock" Mustang will be considered a limited/special edition.
You don't say? :lol: Can't blame you though, there was some really neat stuff on those WWII fighter planes./plays too many fightsims
//Can talk about planes all day
What "foreign brand" is this Roush Mustang supposed to go up against, anyway? There's hardly any real competition for the Mustang foreign or domestic, even for the hopped-up ones; nobody really cross-shops a Roush and, say, the M3 and G37.
gee, i don't know....
M6 - 507hp
CLK63 Black Series - 500hp
997 911 GT2 - 530hp
all weighing in the 3,000lb range with the GT2 being the lightest of them all. all have 500+hp. all have 4 seats (even though there's no such thing as a backseat in the GT2). and all are coupes.
...none of which you'd be considering instead of the Roush, and vice-versa.
people buying this over those 3 or vice versa doesn't matter. they're still competition. that's what we're talking about.
like i said.....
500+hp
4 seater
coupe
3,000+lbs
"People buying this over that" matters completely: that's what defines competition, not a stats sheet. Otherwise you get that Hyundai Sonata commercial that claims it's BMW competition because it has the same horsepower as a 525i, same number of seats, doors, etc.
you missed the whole conversation. but thanks for playing.
people buying this over those 3 or vice versa doesn't matter. they're still competition. that's what we're talking about.
like i said.....
500+hp
4 seater
coupe
3,000+lbs
you missed the whole conversation. but thanks for playing.
people buying this over those 3 or vice versa doesn't matter. they're still competition. that's what we're talking about.
like i said.....
500+hp
4 seater
coupe
3,000+lbs
i hate this UAW type anti-foreign car bullshit. If the big 3 want customers then they know full well they have to build all out good cars, anything else is just lazyness.
To their credit, they are finally seeming to make more worthwhile cars, even if most of the good Fords sold Todays are actually Mazdas
Saleen manufactures limited edition, high-performance vehicles. Saleen is an automotive original equipment manufacturer (OEM) and the last American small car manufacturer bearing OEM status. Unlike aftermarket "tuner" companies, Saleen is subject to the same federal regulations governing design and testing of their automotive products as larger vehicle manufacturers such as Ford, General Motors, or Toyota.
wow, its REALLY going over your head isn't?
No it's obviously gone over your head what my point was. Obviously you can't have a discussion without being childish and resorting to personal attacks so I'm done.
Have fun.
PS. I admitted to being wrong on the Yamaha V8 thing.
how is showing you viable facts being childish? and where was the personal attack? a personal attack consists of calling you names and talkin about stuff that has nothing to do with the topic on hand (IE: talkin shit about everything outta the book and calling you a retard), which i wasn't doing.
what is childish is not admitting that you're wrong on both accounts when shown the facts in both threads.
wow, its REALLY going over your head isn't? this coming from the guy who tried to make it very clear that Yamaha didn't develop the 4.4L V8 in the XC90 which infact they did lol.