I want James' hair

1. The standard rule: Use 's for the singular possessive, and a
bare apostrophe after the plural suffix -s or -es for the plural
possessive. For example:

Singular Plural
Nominative dog dogs
Possessive dog's dogs'

2. Nouns ending with an or [z] sound (this includes words ending
in "x", "ce", and similar examples): The plural suffix is -es
rather than -s (unless there's already an "e" at the end, as in
the "-ce" words), but otherwise the rule is the same as above:

Singular Plural
Nominative class classes
Possessive class's classes'

(The possessive plural is what is wanted in "the Joneses'".
This is short for "the Joneses' house", which is not "the
Jones's house".)

There are, however, examples where the singular possessive suffix
is a bare apostrophe:

Singular Plural
Nominative patience patiences
Possessive patience' patiences'

(In most such examples, the plural is rarely used.) For nouns in
this category, many people would consider the 's suffix and the
bare apostrophe to be acceptable alternatives. The rules listed
below may be taken as "most common practice", but they are
not absolute.

A. The 's suffix is preferred for one-syllable words (grass's) or
where the final syllable has a primary or secondary stress
(collapse's);

B. The bare apostrophe is preferred:
- for words ending in -nce (stance');
- for many classical names (Aristophanes', Jesus', Moses');
- where the juxtaposition of two or more sounds would
cause an awkwardness in pronunciation (thesis').

C. Usage is divided in the situation where the final or [z]
sound falls in an unstressed syllable (octopus'/octopus's,
phoenix's/phoenix', and so on).

The question of which suffix is correct arises less often than
one might imagine. Instead of saying "the crisis' start" or "the
crisis's start", most native speakers of English would say "the
start of the crisis", thus avoiding the problem.

3. Plurals not ending in s: Use 's for the possessive plural (men's, people's, sheep's).
 
HALT.

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Ice: you're confusing #2 with #3. "James" is a proper noun, not a common noun.

I'm a grammar nazi -- don't mess with me. I'm usually right. :p

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If he was talking about King James, then i'd concede, but like it or not, it's just a regular run-of-the-mill James. ;)
 
From wikipedia:

If a singular noun ends with an /s/ or a /z/ sound (spelled with -s, -se, -z, -ce, for example), practice varies as to whether to add 's or the apostrophe alone. (For discussion on this and the following points, see below.) In general, a good practice is to follow whichever spoken form is judged best: the boss's shoes, Mrs Jones' hat (or Mrs Jones's hat, if that spoken form is preferred). In many cases, both spoken and written forms differ between writers.

So basically... it don't matta
 
James is in fact a proper noun (hence being capitalised) and the use of the apostrophe as in James' is technically correct for indicating possessive form.

I think these days as long as the writer is above the level of txt msg grammar there is no need to be too picky.

IceBones method is in common usage therefor valid. However i declare Viper007Bond to be technically correct. The best kind of correct. :shifty:
 
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Viper may be technically correct, but it looks odd.

Same way I'd always write "Jesus's beard" and not "Jesus' beard".
 
Viper may be technically correct, but it looks odd.

Same way I'd always write "Jesus's beard" and not "Jesus' beard".

Oh i agree. I'm far too lazy to monitor my own grammar that closely.

I also declare this thread thoroughly OT.
 
Oh i agree. I'm far too lazy to monitor my own grammar that closely.

I also declare this thread thoroughly OT.

Thankfully the OT wasn't a very good one.
 
I think some of you are having a bad day.

Watch this, you will feel better.

http://glumbert.com/wii/view.php?name=baddayoffice

As for this thread. I like when James has his hair about shoulder length. Always been partial to a man with longish hair. Unfortunately mine is military, so you know what that means, but he gets out in 2011 and he has promised me he will let it grow then.

Oh yeah, I think I read where James says he just uses whatever is in the bath to wash it. And I believe him too. I just don't see him being fussy about it.
 
Sorry, but I think you blokes are crazy.

Why would you want to look like a spaniel with big floppity ears??

/I dun get it.
//The only long hair on guys I like is when it's straight, but then some look like girls.
///OMG I've caught the slashies!! HALP!
 
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