Just got to give my two cents, a dime and a nickle: The LG VX9700 (LG Dare) is the most unreliable piece of junk there ever has been. Now that LG VX8600 was great except for the terrible power/data port type they used. I think its actually quicker than the dare with music and many other actions. I've seen tons of garbage LGs coming out lately, I would recommend staying away from most of them.