montoya_ingallfan
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When is the VUK version going to be released?
bartboy9891 said:you obviously dont know what the I-drive is like on the move. i was in my friends dad's 7 series and it was so fucking annoying just trying to mess with the stereo. Sure it was the first time that i've used it. but in the Audi A8, there is another similar type of knob that controls everything, and it isnt even close to being as confusing.
undien717 said:bartboy9891 said:You could actually preset your track settings in M mode and whenever you want your race settings, you just press the M button on the steering wheel. It might be a little tedious to actually adjust your M settings using the idrive, but anybody that could program their VCR could do it,...
Yeah, but its _not_ my damn VCR. I replace my VCR/DVD player every few years as its a consumer product. Since it has such a short useful lifespan, I deal with the poor quality human interface.
My BMW (if, say I could afford an M6) is not something I expect to have such a sh!tty HI. M cars are about driving and performance. Not G.D. gagets.
M cars: handbuilt, limited production, diver focused.
The new M5/M6 breaks all those 'classic' concepts of what the M sub-brand stands for and I think BMW will be poorer for it. It just reduces it to Audi RS style image inhancers with little to no actuall ability. Heck, the damn v8 Aston was par with the M6 at the Isle of Man. How large was the power/weight ratio between the two?!
...grumble grumble...
Its raining here.....
Ianspeed said:undien717 said:bartboy9891 said:You could actually preset your track settings in M mode and whenever you want your race settings, you just press the M button on the steering wheel. It might be a little tedious to actually adjust your M settings using the idrive, but anybody that could program their VCR could do it,...
Yeah, but its _not_ my damn VCR. I replace my VCR/DVD player every few years as its a consumer product. Since it has such a short useful lifespan, I deal with the poor quality human interface.
My BMW (if, say I could afford an M6) is not something I expect to have such a sh!tty HI. M cars are about driving and performance. Not G.D. gagets.
M cars: handbuilt, limited production, diver focused.
The new M5/M6 breaks all those 'classic' concepts of what the M sub-brand stands for and I think BMW will be poorer for it. It just reduces it to Audi RS style image inhancers with little to no actuall ability. Heck, the damn v8 Aston was par with the M6 at the Isle of Man. How large was the power/weight ratio between the two?!
...grumble grumble...
Its raining here.....
Ianspeed, I agree with you to some extent. As far as the concepts go, the "real" M3 should be a CSL with an manual gearbox. Focused, stripped down to basics and driver oriented. Nowadays M cars just have a huge engine, they?re more AMG(no offense) than M Motorsports.
Are car more and more turning into very fast computers or is it just me? A true driver-oriented sportscar should have no electronic aids whatsoever. It should be balanced enough and have a suspension and chassis good enough not to need any of this!
Sorry, grumbling over.
Porsche understood this at least, with the GT3 RS... I can't get enough of that car. If it isn't hardcore enough for you, you can as the only maker buy a race-spec GT3 RSR direct from the racing departement.Redliner said:A true driver-oriented sportscar should have no electronic aids whatsoever. It should be balanced enough and have a suspension and chassis good enough not to need any of this!
positive control said:Let's not forget Lotus as well!
Redliner said:Ianspeed, I agree with you to some extent. As far as the concepts go, the "real" M3 should be a CSL with an manual gearbox. Focused, stripped down to basics and driver oriented. Nowadays M cars just have a huge engine, they?re more AMG(no offense) than M Motorsports.
Are car more and more turning into very fast computers or is it just me?...
SL65AMG~V12~604BHP!!!!!!! said:Look what I found while grazing the internet. You might have seen it before:
BBC Top Gear celeb gets slammed for anti-German jokes!
Dygear said:I am looking for the full scean shown in these pictures, but I can't seem to find them.
They don't seem to be in the season at all. If you know what episode they are in please tell me ( I want to see the full scean, not just a 8 second preview ).