[12x02] November 9th, 2008

[12x02] November 9th, 2008


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I give it an 8. Not as good as the top episodes like the Millau or Bullet Train or Veyron race but still prime Top Gear. Way better than the first episode.

- Fiat review- terrific. The 500 is such a sweet little car and Jeremy portrayed it correctly.. I think. Also, pointing out the insanity of previous Abarths (driving around with the hood permanently open? WTF?) was great.

-SIARPC- I always fast-forward this segment. They really need to get rid of it (imo).

-America trip- good stuff. The running "keep it factual" commentary was hilarious and subtly done (14th largest city, 8th deepest lake, etc, etc). The cars showed themselves off well. The Reno segment was hilarious. I've been to the casinos there and the residents really are like that. Lake Tahoe really is that beautiful. The Utah desert is really that surreal. Altogether, extremely factual.

My opinions of the cars: the 'vette's a ridiculously good performer. The interior makes it clear that GM spent all of the money on the stuff that actually makes the car go faster. Also, even here in the US, 'vettes give of a strong odor of Drakar Noir and gold chains... not exactly what people with 100K to spend on a car want to portray. Still, it's clearly an epic performer. The CTS-V, on the other hand, is just an awesome car is every respect. I think it's the best car out of the three (especially at the price... $65K for that car is a ludicrously good deal). Lastly, if you don't want a Challenger, you have no business calling yourself a pistonhead (IMO). Yes, the Camaro is probably going to be better, but the Challenger (especially the silver SRT-8 with dark grey Trans-Am stripes at my local dealership) is undeniably cool.

Also, I appreciated that TG finally acknowledged that the 'vette and CTS-V are not muscle cars. The Vette has never in its 52 years been a true muscle car. The current CTS-V is light years from being a muscle car. It has particularly always bugged my that British journalists tag 'vettes as muscle cars, even though it's the same size and weight as a 911. It show their bias.
 
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I think this is discrimination and/or bullying. :(


On the other hand, you'd think the Brits, with all their vaunted design prowess, would do something more interesting than photocopy the Golden Gate Bridge, change the color and scale in Photoshop, then plunk it down on the east coast of England. :lol:

Yeah the Golden Gate looks nothing like it's predecessors... "Oh but it's red!!!" :rolleyes:

To quote Jezza "Once, on a glorious summer?s morning, I saw the Humber Bridge rising out of some dawn mist and thought it might well be the most beautiful thing I?d ever seen"
and...
"For me the three best looking things ever made by man, are at number 3 the Humber Bridge at number 2 the SR71 spy-plane and at number one this... the Aston DB7. "



Be fair, they've got to have something to look at in Hull.

<_<

Did you know that Hull is is the biggest city in the UK that isnt twinned with anywhere else?

Where did you get your facts, Fifth Gear?

Rotterdam
Reykjav?k

EDIT: How could i forget the infamous Raleigh, North Carolina. :|
 
Way to spoil the joke, Einstein.

It does, however, have a suicide pact with Birmingham.
 
Fist time I watched it it was "ok" with some excellent bits, second time it was better, still like more people I think all these people (mostly the yanks b.t.w.) coming on board giving it a 10 is dubious, the 07x03 episode was probably the one that made TG a marketable product, and I've seen much better ones than this one before.

As for what JC thinks of the US.. seeing he's got business interests he was always going to more positive this time around.
I think he was being his kinda "nice" iykwim.

highlights was the drifting corvette, van on the salt and james blowing away the captain slow tag :)

will young too over the top for me, Get us some more girls/ladies thx
 
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boy, that was a good episode. Pretty sweet to see them in my backyard - reminds me how awful reno is.. but how wonderful driving up is.

and clarkson drifted perfectly around the roads. He makes such a big deal about being hamfisted, but to be able to do that within the lanes with that much power, is very impressive - he does have a lot of practice though.
 
LOL! The highway patrolman Jeremy was flipping off is my neighbor!

it's been quoted a few times already... but INTERVIEW PLZ!!

loved the episode, like said by many, the drift was epic

however... i never liked the CTS-V... because *WHY?!?* they didn't use the same front grille as the NEW CTS... which is a LOT nicer looking AND it's a cadillac... never been a fan of caddies... except maybe the new CTS *without -V* ...

ever since playing NFS Carbon and struggling to go around the turns in canyon races in a corvette... and heat 5 federal pursuit corvettes screwing me up all the time... i've hated all corvettes... but that seemed like something totally different...

the interior... i'm actually surprised it's so nice! i remember the corvette steering wheel always looked like a bulldog staring at you... and ANY OTHER chevy interior was ugly as hell... this might really change my opinion on new chevies...

one thing i've been wondering though... how did they decide on a goal they wanted to achieve? Jezza's 170mph, James' 160mph, and Hammster's 150mph? did they just randomly estimate the capabilities of their car? they all came quite close on their first few attempts... 1-3 mph short... that's a pretty darn good estimation i'd say...

overall i really enjoyed watching this episode... like most others!

PS: oh can't forget the apology! i thought he was actually REALLY going to apologize about murdering prostitutes... then he added "for burning the GT2 time" and i literally fell off my chair laughing my head off
 
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Much better effort then the premier and for the most part classic TG. I didn't mind the SIARPC piece given the banter btn Jezza and the guest but the 'vette drifting that corner and Jezza driving the camper were the highlights.
 
9/10 for this week's episode.

The review of the Fiat was typical Clarkson. It's so nice after seeing TGAU 'reviews' to get proper reviews from TGUK.

The American Odyssey this time was much better than the original American episode, even if they weren't 'attempting' to be entertaining. I loved the cars, and I think they did too. Now I have to wonder if Jeremy is going to be looking for a Corvette to add to his collection. ;)

SIARPC was more interesting than I thought it would be for me. Being American, I don't see Pop Idol....hell I don't even watch American Idol....but thankfully his personality and humor went a long way towards making up for that. Great segment.

Very entertained by this episode...crap I hear helicopters....
 
Now I have to wonder if Jeremy is going to be looking for a Corvette to add to his collection. ;)

He might, but I think he'd probably ask his Corvette dealer about their anti-theft systems first. ;)

And I wouldn't be at all surprised if Bruce Willis turns up this season as a SIARPC. ;D
 
I wish they would come out east for once where there are real roads. Why do they never film in the Northeast corridor?

Nobody films there because there are entirely too many cops and speed traps waiting to ruin the fun. And, since most of the Northeast is either bankrupt or heading for bankruptcy, the roads are in terrible condition.

We do have real roads in the South and West, obviously, or we wouldn't have had the canyon segment in this ep. However, we're not talking about where they are because then they'd get clogged by tourists in Winnebagos and rental cars. :lol:


Yeah the Golden Gate looks nothing like it's predecessors... "Oh but it's red!!!" :rolleyes:


Um, hate to interject facts here :rolleyes: but the Golden Gate was the first of its type in the world...:lol:
 
Darn, already 18 pages of posts just one day after the show aired. It used to be different in the olden days (like, 8-9 pages maximum). You can tell these forums got much more attention recently. Anyway, I did enjoy the show. Cocking about factual style in America tickled my fancy. I only wonder if Hammond really bought that Challenger or was it just Jay Leno's...
 
Darn, already 18 pages of posts just one day after the show aired. It used to be different in the olden days (like, 8-9 pages maximum). You can tell these forums got much more attention recently. Anyway, I did enjoy the show. Cocking about factual style in America tickled my fancy. I only wonder if Hammond really bought that Challenger or was it just Jay Leno's...

No, he really bought it, and TG is trying to sell it with little luck.
 
Nobody films there because there are entirely too many cops and speed traps waiting to ruin the fun. And, since most of the Northeast is either bankrupt or heading for bankruptcy, the roads are in terrible condition.

We do have real roads in the South and West, obviously, or we wouldn't have had the canyon segment in this ep. However, we're not talking about where they are because then they'd get clogged by tourists in Winnebagos and rental cars. :lol:

Yes, seconded. There are great roads in the South and West and I even made a film to prove this point after Top Gear said the greatest driving road was in Europe.

It was really funny to me in this episode that they'd come to very near where my friends and I drove for our film yet they managed to find a perfectly straight boring highway in the middle of nowhere. I was very much relieved when they found that mountain road and really let loose. That looked like a pretty good road to me and somewhere I'd like to check out myself.
 
Really? Link?

Go read upthread - it's on the TG blog anyway.

Unlike Obama, I am not here to compensate you for your failure to do work. :lol: In this case, READ THE THREAD.

Yes, seconded. There are great roads in the South and West and I even made a film to prove this point after Top Gear said the greatest driving road was in Europe.

It was really funny to me in this episode that they'd come to very near where my friends and I drove for our film yet they managed to find a perfectly straight boring highway in the middle of nowhere. I was very much relieved when they found that mountain road and really let loose. That looked like a pretty good road to me and somewhere I'd like to check out myself.


Exactly. In my father's time, Pacific Coast Highway was one hell of a drive. Now it's so clogged by idiots wanting to check out "America's Driving Road" (as it was billed 20 years ago) that you spend most of your time on it in traffic moving less than 20 mph behind some idiot German tourist family in a rented Winnebago. (How do I know they're German? Because the French surrender early and use I-5 instead and the Italians are driving the Winnebago at 110mph off the first cliff turn they come to. :lol:)

So, no more giving out where the great roads in America are. :D
 
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Exactly. In my father's time, Pacific Coast Highway was one hell of a drive. Now it's so clogged by idiots wanting to check out "America's Driving Road" (as it was billed 20 years ago) that you spend most of your time on it in traffic moving less than 20 mph behind some idiot German tourist family in a rented Winnebago.

So, no more giving out where the great roads in America are. :D

Yes. I'm not giving away any secrets in that Highway 1 was one of the roads we drove in our film as well. We loved it at first and then quickly caught up to traffic. Traffic that refused to use turnouts. It was absolutely infuriating.
 
No, he really bought it, and TG is trying to sell it with little luck.

Oh yes, thanks for reminding me, it was actually posted on the main FG page the other day. Hammond paid around 51000$ (which is like what, 500 pounds?:rolleyes:), 10 grand more than the list price. And if I was Hammond, I'd keep it. Even if it's that rubbish. It just looks fab.
 
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Oh yes, thanks for reminding me, it was actually posted on the main FG page the other day. Hammond paid around 51000$ (which is like what, 500 pounds?:rolleyes:), 10 grand more than the list price.

I think he said it was something like 29,000 pounds sterling.

Which is like the entire national GDP of Poland, right? :lol:

(Turnabout is fair play.)
 
I liked this episode, felt much more natural and relaxed than 12x01. Love the Fiat 500 and how Jeremy gave it a proper TG review, and also loved the US car bit.

Good one boys! :thumbsup:
 
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