[19x04] February 17th, 2013

[19x04] February 17th, 2013


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Does eel really explode by the way? You learn something new every day.

It does if the water it's swimming in gets mixed with Sodium :lol:
 
Did anyone else have the last few minutes of sound and vision out of sync, or is the problem with my player? I downloaded both standard and hidef versions.
 
Again, a pretty 'meh' episode. And holy cow, how much did Kia pay them?

  • Hot-hatches: Too much bad Clarkson acting. Vauxhall hate is getting old. Drag result predictable when looking at the spec sheets.
  • Cee'd: What an advertisment. Kia must have paid out of their ass for all the celebs. Nontheless, entertaining and educational, nice car. Chemical Explosion was faked.
  • Hammilton: Nice guy but certainly not the brightest. Do I believe the track time? Hmmmm.
  • Mastretta: Apart from the stereotypic shots of Mexico and the racistic undertone, the best part of the eposode. I didn't think I could take Hammond seriously anymore, but he convinced me. Really nice review.
  • Rugby: Again, advertisment and boring, entertainment for children and the average viewer.

6/10
 
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[*]Cee'd: What an advertisment. Kia must have paid out of their ass for all the celebs. Nontheless, entertaining and educational, nice car. Chemical Explosion was faked.

I'm not too sure Kia paid for all those celebs to show up. TG could have used their BBC connections for that, and I guess celebs don't mind a couple seconds of free scripted-publicity.

Really don't know about the explosion tho, they may have taken some liberties with the special effects department :lol:
 
I'm not too sure Kia paid for all those celebs to show up. TG could have used their BBC connections for that, and I guess celebs don't mind a couple seconds of free scripted-publicity.

That's what I thought..

Clapton: Isn't he a neighbor of JC's? He might have just given the guy a phone call and asked him if he wanted to show up on camera for a few seconds. Willis: Looked like they visited him on-set (Die Hard 5 was shot in Hungary AFAIK). Maaaaybe we'll get to see him as SIARPC. I sure hope we do. Would be a bit late to promote the new film, but maybe that's why they got him to do it. LeBlanc: He's a cool guy and seemed to have enjoyed his appearence on the show. So if he was in Europe anyway.. why not take a day off to do two quick laps?

Not sure about BBC-regulations, but my guess is that KIA didn't pay anything. Well, not in cash, anyway. They most probably donated all the cars and were ok with them getting the shit kicked outta them.

That said: I sure hope that after that enthusiastic review (by TG-standards), they'll soon change the reasonably priced car to one that isn't a Kia. Dacia Sandero would actually be a nice choice. It might be a bit obvious - but how much more reasonably priced can you get?



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That said: i sure hope that after that pretty much enthusiastic review, they'll soon change the reasonably priced car to a ride that isn't a Kia. Dacia Sandero would actually be a nice choice.. even if it's a bit obvious.

We probably have another two seasons of the Kia as the RPC if we go by the other RPCs, each had a lifetime of about 7 seasons.
 
We probably have another two seasons of the Kia as the RPC if we go by the other RPCs, each had a lifetime of about 7 seasons.

Yeah.. you're probably right. I had to check wikipedia to see that even the Lacetti was on from 2006 - 2010. I could've *sworn* it was on much shorter.
 
Really don't know about the explosion tho, they may have taken some liberties with the special effects department :lol:
Raw versions of metals like sodium and potassium are indeed explosively reactive with water. Check Wiki and YouTube. However, JC may have placed something that looked like chunks of sodium next to the wriggling eel before closing the lid - just in case.
 
...they'll soon change the reasonably priced car to one that isn't a Kia. Dacia Sandero would actually be a nice choice. It might be a bit obvious - but how much more reasonably priced can you get?



S.

GREAT NEWS! :james:



As much as James would love a Sandero, I think the "Toybaru" GT86 would be a really good SIARPC car.
 
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As much as James would love a Sandero, I think the "Toybaru" GT86 would be a really good SIARPC car.

I'd love to see that '86/BRZ as the RPC, but I think they'll stick to the compact/fullsized sedan segment. The point is to get stars into a family saloon anyone could own, and put them around the track.

Since the Kia Cee'd's their current car, and the new model's been given a lengthy feature on this episode, I'm sure they'll have to get something completely different for the next RPC in a couple of years.
 
I'd love to see that '86/BRZ as the RPC, but I think they'll stick to the compact/fullsized sedan segment. The point is to get stars into a family saloon anyone could own, and put them around the track.

Since the Kia Cee'd's their current car, and the new model's been given a lengthy feature on this episode, I'm sure they'll have to get something completely different for the next RPC in a couple of years.

Thing about the cars:

Budget would seem to be 15 thousand pounds. The original Cee'd was 14 grand; the current model is apparently now out of that range.

Budget also has to cover a spare car, plus a contract for out-of-warranty repairs. I gather that, in deference to current celebrity driving abilities, the spare car would have to be an automatic.

Also, think 125 hp or under. I think the GT86 is probably overqualified.

Honda Jazz? Nissan Pixo? Ford Fiesta?
 
If the Liana seems faster than it used to be, it's for 2 very good reasons. 1) The added curbing on the final corner, that's probably good for almost half a second, and 2) Tire technology has come a long way since 2002, and the tires on the car probably are a lot more grippy than they used to be. I bet the Lacetti on today's tires would be a second quicker as well.
 
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I think the GT86 is probably overrated and, in all honesly, a piece of overpriced shit that panders to the reflexive petrolheads who insist on worshiping at the altar of rear-wheel drive and manual transmissions because their gods Clarkson and Harris say so and they want to appear oh so desperately fashionable and "correct" to everyone.

FTFY.

Honda Jazz?

Do you know how much of a boner that would give me? And do you know how much mileage I'd get out of it at this place?

Nissan Pixo?

It's the Reasonably-Priced Car, not the Incredibly Cheap Car.

Ford Fiesta?

At this point, I don't think they want anything whose name carries even a whiff of Mexico.
 
Matt Smith should have a go with the Honda Jazz since it's bigger in the inside...


My suggestion is Peugeot 301
 
I'm a bit on the fence about this episode. It was not bad, I definitely liked it more than 19x01 and 19x02. But in my eyes, it wasn't as good as 19x03 either.

Hot hatch comparison: was okay content-wise, but felt a bit over the place. I liked the last joke though about the GT86.
News: were good, no problem with that. Some people said that the handbrake joke was dragged out for too long, but I found it to be okay, because it wasn't cringeworthy for me
Kia CeeApostropheD: that was weird. It looked like one of those over the top crazy pieces in parts, but like Kia advertising in others. Some nice celeb appearances though.
SIARPC: it is always nice to have F1 drivers telling some stories. His lap was fantastic, he really nailed it. I understand some people are questioning his laptime, but I think it's possible.
Mastretta: gave a good basic overview of what the car is about, and made the important point of the "first attempt problems". This piece seemed a bit too short though, I would have preferred it deeper and shortened the last piece.
KIA rugby: There must have been some kind of deal with Kia and the BBC (also see below). The match itself was okay, but now that they've done this three times (if I'm not mistaken), it's beginning to feel boring, because it basically is always the same. The episode hit rock bottom when James drew the penis - that was very poor, Mr. May.

I can't help thinking that season 19 is a testbed. They are silently testing some new concepts and are observing the figures to see if people mind. I actually believe the Kia glut in 19x04 was a one-off deal with the Koreans. It was embedded advertising, which is getting more and more popular, because it is less obvious and less intrusive than actual advertising. I hope I am wrong though, because if Top Gear becomes that kind of show, it is pretty much over.

Verdict for 19x04: not bad (with bad as in cringeworthy), but weird in many ways. 6/10.
 
Gave it an 8

Hot Hatchbacks: Was a bit surprised that Jeremy didn't like the ST Focus that much, nevertheless, it was a good review. Loved the comparison between the three (Vauxhall/Renault/Ford). Kind of wish we had the Vauxhall/Opel and the Renault available here in the States. The reference to the GT86 at the end was funny.

News: Nothing much to say here. Had a couple of laughs.

Kia C apostrophe D: It was decent, though the best of these reviews by far was the original one for the Fiesta. Could have been better.

Mastretta: I wasn't expecting much, if I'm honest. The end result was actually pretty good. For a first car, the Mastretta is not bad. There's room for imprevement, of course, but that's what first cars are for; figure out what needs to be changed for the next model. Good effort.

SIARPC: My least favorite segment, but this was actually quite nice. Spectacular lap by Hamilton.

Kia Rugby: One of my favorite bits. It was basically a big ad for Kia, but that's OK since they were allowed to crash the cars into each other. Loved the older car soccer and hockey (Top Gear winter Olympics special) matches and this did not disappoint.


Overall it was a good episode. Yes, there were a few bits where I was "meh" about, but as a whole it was good.
 
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