ScarFace88
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I will be so glad when this shitfest is over...
It'll never be over. No matter who wins on Tuesday, the other side will whine and cry for the next four years until another equally (if not more so) awful set of candidates isI will be so glad when this shitfest is over...
It'll never be over. No matter who wins on Tuesday, the other side will whine and cry for the next four years until another equally (if not more so) awful set of candidates isreleased from the stinking abyss of hellselected. Then the process starts a new.
Paul Manafort
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort
worked for
Viktor Yanukovych
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e7ac...ides-covertly-fought-freeing-ukraine-prisoner
FBI going rogue?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump
Pretty much.
By any measurable standard, I think, the country is now in a much better state than it was in 2008. Yet, there are still those who claim Barack Obama was the worst president we ever had. Short of a miracle, nothing and no one will convince them that Obama did a good job. Even if Clinton carries over the momentum and promotes progress, in four years there will still be those committed to certain myths, who would claim that she was even worse than Obama, that everything is a disaster, and that we are all going to hell unless we repent and return to our mythical roots of a nation that was once great, but no longer is. The appeal of the jeremiad is very powerful.
Reminds of that time that McCain defended Obama.
Obama Shouts Over Crowd To Defend Trump Supporter At Rally
I swear if someone at work Monday agrees with/repeats Trump's twisted version of what happened, Lord help me...
To sum up The Guardian article, the FBI is allegedly conspiring to get Trump elected.
I don't see how this fits with Comey recommending Hillary not be charged a couple months ago. But then that could all be part of the conspiracy! Next jack_christie will post a link to an article suggesting chem trails are being released by the Trump team to overthrow American democracy. The FBI andthe Soviet UnionRussia are after us all!
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/11/03/us/politics/ap-us-campaign-2016-clinton-foundation.htmlAP Sources: FBI Agents Sought Clinton Foundation Probe
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...af72c4-a2be-11e6-8832-23a007c77bb4_story.htmlCan anyone control the FBI?
http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...protocol-but-avoids-1478104533-htmlstory.htmlObama on FBI investigation: 'We don?t operate on innuendo'
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-hillary-clinton-emails-20161104-story.htmlHow to tarnish Hillary Clinton: Accuse, investigate, come up empty, try again
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-donald-trump-us-election-2016-a7395666.htmlHillary Clinton FBI indictment 'likely', claims Fox News
debunked
Yes Obama did a great job... At fudging unemployment nunbers making poor deals, getting us once again stuck in the ME, souring relations with Russia, ignoring the constitution, and race-bating. Thankfully he did a poor job at stopping energy production so we actually did well on that front.Pretty much.
By any measurable standard, I think, the country is now in a much better state than it was in 2008. Yet, there are still those who claim Barack Obama was the worst president we ever had. Short of a miracle, nothing and no one will convince them that Obama did a good job. Even if Clinton carries over the momentum and promotes progress, in four years there will still be those committed to certain myths, who would claim that she was even worse than Obama, that everything is a disaster, and that we are all going to hell unless we repent and return to our mythical roots of a nation that was once great, but no longer is. The appeal of the jeremiad is very powerful.
So the false "Hillary Clinton FBI indictment 'likely'" never happened?
Anyway Giuliani has confirmed the FBi revolt story and dropped himself in the middle of it.
Rudy Giuliani Caught in a BIG FAT LIE, Admitted he Received CLASSIFIED Information from FBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gilt0LrPz7w
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/11/03/us/politics/ap-us-campaign-2016-clinton-foundation.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...af72c4-a2be-11e6-8832-23a007c77bb4_story.html
http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...protocol-but-avoids-1478104533-htmlstory.html
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-hillary-clinton-emails-20161104-story.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-donald-trump-us-election-2016-a7395666.html
So the false "Hillary Clinton FBI indictment 'likely'" never happened?
When it comes to the office of President sadly there is a misconception on how much power they have. Outside of vetoing and the Vice President having the right to call a tied Senate vote, the Executive has no legislative authority. Unofficially the President has a lot on account they tend to take over their Party's policy, but even then there is the opposition. I don't mind Stein as she would have little power as a third party candidate (the same for Johnson). For Trump and Clinton things are different, Clinton has the connections and the blessing of the Democratic Party, and thus will be able to lead. Trump, while disliked has already shown the ability to lead the Republican Party (he has moved it socially Left regarding LGBT and religious issues).
In terms of knowledge, I am more concerned with principals than knowledge. Decisions will steam from ideology. To give an example, I am liberal (natural rights, social contract, individualism) and base my decisions on its precepts. I believe universal healthcare protects natural rights for those who would not receive charity and avoids the indoctrination that religious care tends to demand. For geopolitical and regional knowledge advisors exist. The US Government hires people who have dedicated their lives to the study of individual countries and fields such as economics; their collective knowledge is beyond what any President can achieve. An executive's task is to make decisions based on their skills of judgment and values.
An issue with Trump is that his ideology, based on his 70 years prior to being a candidate, isn't firmly rooted and tends to be based on popular opinion. Clinton is further to the right of Obama, and lets her policy be based on corporate interests. Stein I disagree with on many points, but she would be powerless so I'm not too concerned (ditto for Johnson).
FBI chief: No charges against Clinton after new email review
Shouldn't there be an unbiased psychological examination for the candidates to determine whether the person even has enough humanity (we've long lost any hope for sanity) in them before they're pushed as nominees?
http://boingboing.net/2016/11/05/a-canadian-newspaper-compiles.htmlA Canadian newspaper compiles a comprehensive list of Trump's election-season lies
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...he-unauthorized-database-of-false-things.htmlDonald Trump: The unauthorized database of false things
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...p-said-40-false-things-on-final-saturday.htmlNew record: Donald Trump said 40 false things on final Saturday
On a four-rally day, Donald Trump broke his previous record of 37 false claims.