2018 Honda Accord - No V6 but fastback looks, optional 2.0T and 6 speed MT

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Honda Press Release said:
The 10th-generation Accord is new from the ground up and features a lighter and more rigid body structure, an advanced new chassis design, two all-new, high-torque direct-injected and turbocharged engines, the world's first 10-speed automatic transmission for a front-drive car and a new generation of Honda's two-motor hybrid technology, along with a host of new safety, driver-assistive and connected-car technologies ? all wrapped in a more sophisticated, sleek and athletic design with top class interior space and comfort.

"We are redefining the Honda Accord for a new generation of buyers by bringing something unexpected that challenges the idea of what a mainstream sedan can be," said Jeff Conrad, senior vice president of the Automobile Division of American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "Even as we advance core values like great driving dynamics, safety performance and efficiency, the distinctive design of this all-new 2018 Honda Accord will help it appeal to both head and heart in equal measure."

Next-Generation Accord Design and Packaging
In reimagining the Accord for its 10th-generation rebirth, Honda designers and engineers went back to the fundamentals of proportion and stance with a sporting and athletic appearance, like a sprinter in the blocks. The approach reinvigorates classic Honda design principles, such as a low and wide body, expansive visibility and sporty seating position, and then translating them into a thoroughly modern, sporty and premium Accord sedan design.

The new Accord features a longer wheelbase (+2.16 inches), a lower overall height (-0.59 inch) and wider (+0.39 inch) body, wider wheel tracks (+0.20 in. front, +0.79 in. rear), a shortened overall length (-0.39 inch) and lower, sportier seating position (-1.0 inch front and -0.79 inch back). A sweeping greenhouse positioned farther back on the body completes the new stance and proportion of the next-generation Accord. The combined effect of these changes is a more premium look, highlighted by shorter overhangs, a bold front fascia, a long and low hood, and a visual center of gravity moved closer to the rear wheels.

Viewed head-on, the new Accord's greenhouse also angles in more dramatically from the window sills to the roof, further emphasizing the wide lower body, while inside the cabin the seats have been moved slightly inward that contributes to improved hip, shoulder and head room while enhancing occupants' freedom of movement. Also, the longer wheelbase allowed designers to move the second-row seats substantially rearward, giving Accord almost 2 extra inches of rear leg room to offer one of the most spacious rear seating areas in its class. Overall passenger volume is increased by 2.5 cubic feet to 105.7 (based on LX). Trunk space has also been increased by nearly one cubic foot on the 1.5-liter and 2.0-liter engine powered Accords and by 3.2 cubic feet on the Accord Hybrid to a top level 16.7 cubic feet (+0.9 cu.ft.).

Elegant and modern exterior detailing compliments the Accord's new, more dynamic design. The bold and upright front fascia is highlighted by Honda's signature chrome wing front grille positioned above a large main air intake and flanked by available 9-lamp full-LED headlights and LED fog lights. The chiseled hood features a distinctive and aggressive raised center, and the deeply sculpted body sides enhance the visual length and strength of the lower body.

Further, a new laser brazing process that joins the dramatically arching roof to the body side panels creates a clean appearance with no garnish over the rain channels. The similarly low and wide rear view is finished off with an upswept decklid, distinctive LED light-pipe taillights and cleanly integrated dual exhaust ports. Overall aerodynamic efficiency is improved by approximately 3 percent (based on EX trim) to make it the most streamlined Accord yet.

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Honda Press Release said:
Elegant and Tech Savvy Cabin

The 2018 Accord also boasts a larger, more premium and tech savvy interior that compliments its athletic and elegant body design, delivering a level of quality and premium feel that belies Accord's mainstream sedan status.

The new Accord features a panoramic forward view that is enabled by its lower cowl and by front roof pillars that are 20 percent narrower and moved rearward relative to the driver's seating position. The new soft-touch instrument panel features an ultra-thin profile and three-tier design with a strong upper deck that describes a continuous arc from its outboard section through the side door sills, giving a sense of strength and visual continuity.

A more intricately contoured sport inspired steering wheel with deep-set thumb rests and available paddle shifters compliment the Accord's more sophisticated and sporty performance capabilities. Meticulous attention to the tactile and visual quality of surface materials and decorations communicates modernity and soft-spoken elegance throughout the cabin.

The inboard positioning of the seats provides for improved freedom of movement and is complimented by longer, wider and more deeply padded arm rests, front and rear; while the Accord's newly designed seats feature taller shoulder bolstering for a more premium appearance and improved lateral support. New high-accuracy seat padding with variable firmness improves seating comfort and support. The driver's seat now has available 12-way power adjustment with height-adjustable lumbar support, and passenger comfort is further enhanced by available new heated and ventilated front seats and by improved available rear seat heating with both seat bottom and seat back heating elements.

The tech-savvy and easy-to-use 2018 Accord cabin also features an all-new HMI that includes an ultra-slim 7-inch TFT driver's meter and a new 8-inch Display Audio touchscreen interface with physical volume and tuning knobs and more intuitive, smartphone-like features and functionality including customizable app tiles and home-screen shortcuts, along with Apple CarPlay? and Android Auto? compatibility. The Accord also will offer the next-generation of HondaLink telematics with new capabilities including emergency roadside assistance, remote locking/unlocking and engine start, stolen vehicle tracking, remote diagnostics, geofencing, speed tracking and more.

Touring trims of both 1.5-liter and 2.0-liter models also feature a new 6-inch driver's Head Up Display with selectable information, including speed, engine rpm, turn-by-turn navigation, and Traffic Sign Recognition. Additional new or improved connected-car technologies available on the 2018 Accord include wireless device charging, automatic Bluetooth? phone pairing with Near Field Communication technology, 4G LTE in-car Wi-Fi, and Wi-Fi-enabled over-the-air system updates.

Audio systems vary by trim, starting with 4 speakers and 160 watts on LX, 8 speakers and 180 watts on Sport and EX trims, and 10 speakers and 450 watts on EX-L and Touring trims. All models feature USB charging ports (two 2.5-amp ports on EX and above) along with Bluetooth connectivity.

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Honda Press Release said:
Accord Performance: Turbocharged and Electrified

The 2018 Accord takes an entirely new approach to performance by featuring three advanced new powerplants ? two direct-injected and turbocharged 4-cylinder engines and the third generation of Honda's two-motor hybrid powertrain technology. The 2018 Accord also features a new Honda-developed 10-speed automatic transmission (10AT) with the 2.0-liter turbo engine, the first of its kind for a front-wheel-drive car, and an available 6-speed manual transmission for both turbocharged engines.

The new 1.5-liter, 16-valve DOHC direct-injected turbo with dual Variable Timing Control (dual VTC) produces a peak 192 horsepower (HP) at 5,500 rpm and 192 lb-ft. of torque from 1,500 to 5,000 rpm, up from 185 HP at 6,400 rpm and 181 lb.-ft. at 3,900 rpm on the existing, normally aspirated 2.4-liter model. The new 1.5-liter turbo is mated to a Honda continuously variable automatic transmission (CVT) or, in Sport trim, to a CVT or a 6-speed manual transmission (6MT).

The Accord can also be equipped with a new 2.0-liter 16-valve DOHC direct-injected turbo with i-VTEC? valvetrain paired with a 10-speed automatic transmission or, in Sport trim, to the 10AT or an available 6MT. The new 2.0-liter turbo, sharing much of its design with the race-bred 2017 Civic Type R, produces 252 HP at 6,500 rpm and 273 lb.-ft. of torque from 1,500 to 4,000 rpm, compared to 278 HP at 6,200 rpm and 252 lb.-ft. at 4,900 rpm for the 3.5-liter V6 that it replaces.

Both turbocharged engines utilize a host of new technologies, including high-efficiency low-inertia turbos, variable valve timing, low-pressure-loss air intake and high-accuracy direct injection, to deliver immediate and powerful response along while still anticipated to receive top level fuel economy ratings. The two new automatic transmissions ? the CVT for the 1.5-liter engine and new 10AT for the 2.0-liter engine ? take greater advantage of available torque while maximizing quietness and efficiency during highway cruising. The redesigned CVT has an 11 percent lower ratio compared to the current version for more powerful launch performance, while the new 10AT is 22 lbs. lighter, has a 68 percent wider overall ratio range with a 43 percent lower first gear, and a 17 percent taller top gear compared to the current Accord's six-speed automatic.

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Source: http://hondanews.com/releases/drama...r-america-s-retail-best-selling-midsize-sedan

Consumer preview site: http://automobiles.honda.com/future-cars/accord

I'm loving this car. I know people have compared it to the Crosstour but they're fucking blind. This looks handsome....a bit like a cut price A7 from some angles, IMHO, and the interior looks fantastic. While I suspect it won't save the US mid-size car market from "Death by Compact Crossover," I have to commend them for embracing the car side of things instead of trying to crossover it up. Ditto offering a 6 speed with the higher output engine. I do wish they would have continued the 6 speed EX sedan, mainly for the opportunity to opt into a light colored interior, but hey, you can't have it all.

BTW: I haven't posted in this section recently mainly because I don't have as much time as I used to - I also wasn't sure if you guys just preferred a bit of "just the facts" text then pics or what I did with this post. Let me know what you prefer and I'll try to remember the next time I'm in this section.
 
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Good looking car and available manual transmission? Sign me up.
I agree. Shame it lost the V6, but it's not a sports car so I could tolerate this as a family car.

Hell, I remember before I was of age to drive how people used to bitch and moan about Accords not coming with a V6 until 1993 or 94 (I'm on my phone, can't be arsed to look it up).
 
I agree. Shame it lost the V6, but it's not a sports car so I could tolerate this as a family car.

Hell, I remember before I was of age to drive how people used to bitch and moan about Accords not coming with a V6 until 1993 or 94 (I'm on my phone, can't be arsed to look it up).

Honesty, i'd rather have the 4 cylinder just from a "better balance" perspective. Reviewers like the straight line thrust but also comment that V6 family sedans can feel a bit more nose heavy than the 4 bangers while cornering.

Besides with the 2.0t sharing Type-R lineage I'm sure there will be ways of making it even more powerful. The 1.5t Civic already has tunes available as well.

And you're right, the V6 didn't make an appearance until 94.
 
I don't like the rear, but that cvomes with it being a 4-door "fastback", apparently. Other than that, nice!
 
I agree. Shame it lost the V6, but it's not a sports car so I could tolerate this as a family car.

Hell, I remember before I was of age to drive how people used to bitch and moan about Accords not coming with a V6 until 1993 or 94 (I'm on my phone, can't be arsed to look it up).
We had both a 4 cylinder and V6 version of the 1998-2002 body style. Both were automatics and got 29-30 mpg. The V6 just did it with a little more expediency.
 
After the latest Civic, I'm actually quite surprised this doesn't look bad at all... My only gripe is the chrome trim at the front in combination with the headlights - it's just too thick and flashy. I'd rather go for simpler optics and use two smaller chrome fins around the logo, inserted in a black frame.
 
Huh, it has the Dodge Charger's face.
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So they are killing the good looking sedan and keeping the fugly liftback? Sad times.. So gotta get the just posted Charger if you want a good looking V6 sedan.. and and you even get the V8 option.. :p. Manual.. sure.. ok.. I guess.. not sure a midsized ok-ish-powered sedan is a car that *has to be* manual really..
 
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I thoroughly enjoyed Honda's V6 engine in the Accord, shame they've decided neuter it. Fuck this smaller engine movement.
 
I wonder who signed off on this thing
 
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Huh, it has the Dodge Charger's face.
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Except my Charger looks, sounds, and has a better value for $$$ than this. Plus, because V8.
 
I'm not convinced that the liftback idea will sell all that well in the US. On the other hand, removing the V6 from the Accord adds justification back to the Acura line - used to be that if you wanted a Honda with a V6, you had to go to the Acura dealer. I was fine with that in the 80s and 90s and now that the market is moving back that way I don't really have a problem with it.

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I like the looks, but why not just make the rear a proper hatch if they're going for that look? So much more practical than a regular boot.

They're trying to get the benefits of a hatch without invoking the sales stigma that hatchbacks in the US generally have.
 
They're trying to get the benefits of a hatch without invoking the sales stigma that hatchbacks in the US generally have.

This. The moment someone discovers the ass end lifts up, sales go straight to hell here especially in the midsize family car segment.

Mazda and Kia tried to disguise their hatches as slightly more stylish sedans and sales weren't great.
 
They're trying to get the benefits of a hatch without invoking the sales stigma that hatchbacks in the US generally have.
But without a liftback you just get a small trunk opening with a possibly deep trunk that still can't get big items into it. You end up with the worst of both worlds (doesn't look like a trunked sedan [Americans want that, hence they buy sedans], doesn't have the cargo-eating capacity of a hatchback [Americans want that, hence they buy crossovers]) rather than the benefits.
 
But without a liftback you just get a small trunk opening with a possibly deep trunk that still can't get big items into it. You end up with the worst of both worlds (doesn't look like a trunked sedan [Americans want that, hence they buy sedans], doesn't have the cargo-eating capacity of a hatchback [Americans want that, hence they buy crossovers]) rather than the benefits.

They could have designed it as a sedan and made a longer trunk/decklid accordingly. (No pun intended.)

Something to remember about liftbacks of this type is that they often annoy a large number of people. First, because of the length of the liftback lid and in order to provide clearance, the hatch is usually way the hell up in the air - which annoys shorter people or even makes it useless to them. Second, because the liftback design has a long lid and they're trying to compromise, the 'tooth' on the back of the liftback is usually too low for tall people to comfortably load the vehicle.

There's a reason this was, until the 2018 arrives in dealerships, the last USDM Accord liftback:
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Being 6'0", the liftback on my parents' (86?) 9000 Turbo was one of many reasons I hated that car.
 
They could have designed it as a sedan and made a longer trunk/decklid accordingly. (No pun intended.)
If we're both saying this is a crappy compromise of a design, then I agree.

Something to remember about liftbacks of this type is that they often annoy a large number of people. First, because of the length of the liftback lid and in order to provide clearance, the hatch is usually way the hell up in the air - which annoys shorter people or even makes it useless to them. Second, because the liftback design has a long lid and they're trying to compromise, the 'tooth' on the back of the liftback is usually too low for tall people to comfortably load the vehicle.

There's a reason this was, until the 2018 arrives in dealerships, the last USDM Accord liftback:
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Being 6'0", the liftback on my parents' (86?) 9000 Turbo was one of many reasons I hated that car.
By tooth do you mean the part of the liftgate that hangs down and stabs you in the head? I could see how that'd be a problem. The combo of inside handle and low "tooth" height makes it perfect for 5'7" me.
 
If we're both saying this is a crappy compromise of a design, then I agree.

Pretty much, yeah.

By tooth do you mean the part of the liftgate that hangs down and stabs you in the head? I could see how that'd be a problem. The combo of inside handle and low "tooth" height makes it perfect for 5'7" me.

Yup, that's the bastard.
 
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