I think that was his point
TOO FUNNY!
Veyron, practical...??? :lol:
How do you know it feels disconnected, have you driven one? And I'd take a hypercar that disconnects me a bit from driving rather than a hypercar *coughCCXcough* that scares me for five minutes and then kills me or makes my ears bleed and my body hurt.
Just annother proof that you should't take Jeremy Clarkson's words too seriously...
I never mentioned Jeremy Clarkson, and I can't recall that he said those things about the CCX either.
Well, if they are out for the ultimate driving machine, the Veyron surely isn't their first choice. And that makes it a bad car?
... which is perfectly fine with me. If we'd all like the same car, wouldn't the world be boring? You like the CCX better, I like the Veyron better - period! But how is that connected to the Veyron not being practical, as you said?
So? I didn't bring this up, it isn't even connected to what we were talking about.
I have twisted or ignored what facts?
It doesn't make it a bad one, but it does make it rather pointless...
Again, It makes it pointless. There is no point in having a long distance cruiser with no luggage space. So it won't do it as a GT. It's also disconnected in feel as the likes of EVO and CAR pointed out, so it won't cut it as a proper supercar either. So to sum up the Veyron tries to be a GT with all the comfort equipment, but it also tries to be a supercar with all that performance, it tries to be both, but it ends up being neither.
Saying the CCX would just scare you and then kill you. I thought that was a reference to Jeremy's test in the first episode of 2006, but then no, my bad. I just pointed out that what has been stated about the CCX's handling labelling it as dangerous is just not right...
You have presented opinion as facts, ignoring that it's just opinion.
You see, what you're doing here is measuring the practicality of a car by your measures. The result is that you see no practically, therefor, you don't like the car. Where I am trying to get at is that other people have other needs, other point of views and look for other things in a car. And for them, the Veyron is not pointless. You need to understand the difference between "the Veyron is pointless" and "the Veyron is pointless in my opinion".
Ok then, so please name any other car that gives you the same performance figures along with the same comfort. If you can name one, I am impressed. If you can't, how can this car be pointless?
No, I didn't reference to Jeremy, rather than all the reviews I've read and seen. And I find it hard to believe that a mid-engined RWD car with nippy handling and this much grunt can not be dangerous. I am pretty sure I'd throw that thing in the ditch on the first day.
Nobody else has bothered to make a car with so much comforts (and subsequently less feel) and this performance becuse it simply makes no sense doing so...
So i'ts the cars fault if someone crashes? No, seriously, the car isn't dangerous at all. It's always the driver it depends on. It's not the car's fault if I throw it in a ditch the first day, it's my fault, for overestimating my own talents. There is a reason why driver error is the cause of almost all car accidents.
Well, it's not like the Veyrons of this world spend all their time in the showrooms, is it? And if I could have any car in the world, it certainly belongs to the top three of the cars I'd love to own.
There are cars that are easy to drive, and cars that are hard to drive. Technically, a crash mostly is the drivers fault. So the alternative of driving a hard to drive vehicle is to not drive it at all, cause you can't crash then? As soon as you enter todays traffic, things can happen even the most experienced, sophisticated and careful driver can not prevent. You share the road with others, and it can be them putting you in a situation. And then, the way your car behaves will make the difference between a crash and no crash.
No, the alternative is called common sense, and knowing your own limits. You don't have to drive a car like you stole it everywhere.
Well, you are more likely to treat a car that is difficult to drive with more respect than one that is easy to drive. As the latter one might lull you into a sense of false security, and then abruptly it lets go. I have seen examples of that during the winters here, with people in cars loaded with electronic trickery and fancy 4wd systems thinking that they are invincible ending up in the ditch. This is usually after having been overtaken by them at ridiculous speeds just moments earier.
I've seen that too, and I know what you mean. Anyway, it is okay then to drive a CCX in the snow, given you're careful enough?
As long as you can get appropriate snow tires that fits those wheel dimensions, yes, it's okay. Allthoug it will be an exercise in extreme self contention, as it will constantly tempt you to do silly things with your right foot...
