Apparently I need an AWD/4WD car now

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LeVeL

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First winter with a REALLY steep driveway and even snow tires and an LSD are struggling. Also my street doesn't get plowed all that well. So methinks it might be time for a new car :cry:


Top picks right now:
  • Lincoln MKZ would be great but they're still pricey.
  • 4th gen Acura TL came with a manual and AWD but they're hard to find.
  • I like the Mazda CX3 and CX5 but on US cars stability control can't be defeated, which ruins the fun completely.
  • Charger V6/AWD maybe?

Others:
  • I don't like Subaru but I suppose I don't mind the Crosstrek all that much. Before anyone suggests a WRX, they're terribad.
  • I don't like Audi/VW.
  • With BMW or Merc I'd be concerned about reliability.
  • I don't like most SUVs but humor me. Our Grand Cherokee is great but I don't want to spend the money on another one.
  • I don't like Wranglers.
  • I don't really want a truck (Spectre will suggest one anyways but no, really, I don't want a truck lol)
  • Definitely nothing beige and boring (Rav4, CRV, Rogue, etc)

Any other ideas?
 
Get a Psyclone or a Typhoon. Both are AWD and have fun potential.
 
It's a bit of a heffalump but..Lincoln MKT? That or the Ford Flex. The latter isn't really an SUV.

If none of the above...perhaps an RLX?
 
LeVeL said:
  • 4th gen Acura TL came with a manual and AWD but they're hard to find.
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https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=536129015
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LeVeL said:
  • With BMW or Merc I'd be concerned about reliability.
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What about CPO? CPO usually has a better warranty than new.

https://cpo.bmwusa.com/used/2014-BMW-328i-xdrive-WBA3G7C55EKN37531

gaasc said:
It's a bit of a heffalump but..Lincoln MKT? That or the Ford Flex. The latter isn't really an SUV.
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Neither are SUVs and both very comfortable. And they're pretty damn fast with the 3.5L Ecoboost.
 
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R35? :p

cadillac CT6 also has AWD!
 
What's your budget? If you want a BMW/Merc, you can lease them for $500 a month.

Alternately, Lexus GX470/GX460. Love mine, super comfy, and you can buy a Prius strainer for a bumper. Also still compact enough to be maneuverable.

I'd suggest a Hyundai Genesis AWD sedan, but they as competent as they are boring.
 
Der Stig said:
What's your budget? If you want a BMW/Merc, you can lease them for $500 a month.

Alternately, Lexus GX470/GX460. Love mine, super comfy, and you can buy a Prius strainer for a bumper. Also still compact enough to be maneuverable.

I'd suggest a Hyundai Genesis AWD sedan, but they as competent as they are boring.
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I'd like to keep my payment under $300/mo, the lower the better. So figure that's a lease on a $25-30k new car or it's a used $15k car.

I like the GX but I don't think I can see myself in one; I'll think about this option though.

Speaking of Lexus, how about an 06+ LS460? If I'm going to be stuck with a boring automatic, might as well be cocooned in luxury and look like a playa :roflmao:

Edit: or an IS350
 
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CrzRsn said:
My buddy lives his 2nd gen IS350 and just picked up a 3rd gen GS350 for his girlfriend.
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Is the autotragic in those any good? I'd like to be towards the ZF/PDK end of the spectrum and further away from the 2001-Ford-Focus-Four-Speed side.


BerserkerCatSplat said:
V8/AWD was/is also an option on the LX cars.
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Those old 5-speed autos sucked though. I'm thinking a newer model with the ZF 8-speed.
 
BerserkerCatSplat said:
V8/AWD was/is also an option on the LX cars.
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Have to do a Police Pursuit model to get an AWD V8 Charger these days.

LeVeL said:
Is the autotragic in those any good? I'd like to be towards the ZF/PDK end of the spectrum and further away from the 2001-Ford-Focus-Four-Speed side.
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LeVeL said:
absolutely no opportunity to go fast or to have ANY fun.
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You answered your own question. Its an automatic transmission. It gets the job done. Its smooth and changes gears when it needs to.
 
LeVeL said:
Those old 5-speed autos sucked though. I'm thinking a newer model with the ZF 8-speed.
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I've never had any complaints about the NAG1, but I also have it set up to shift very firm. The 8s are nice but yeah, can't get AWD with them. Guess you're stuck with the Pentastar then.
 
BerserkerCatSplat said:
I've never had any complaints about the NAG1, but I also have it set up to shift very firm. The 8s are nice but yeah, can't get AWD with them. Guess you're stuck with the Pentastar then.
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I've seen a few newer Police models already on decommissioned auctions.

https://www.copcarsonline.com/2018_Dodge_Charger_Largo_FL_35020052.veh

But again, its the old 5 speed. And you're going to have a very utilitarian bare-bones interior with holes drilled in random places and a column shifter.
 
Der Stig said:
WCPGW?

https://www.carmax.com/car/18202842
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My dad's MkIV Golf has been running great and it's somewhere around 150k miles. However, his previous B7 A4 was an absolute black hole for money - horrific reliability with several major problems. If that R had 40k miles then maybe, but I won't go anywhere near a VAG product with 100k. Great idea though!


Edit: how's the reliability on the Evo X? :devil:
 
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