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Well, with 2 of the main actors dead and the others having aged a lot by now, it'll be hard to pick the series up again. I don't want to rule out any spin-offs for the future but currently I think the TV stations are not too keen on space sagas. They axed Stargate Universe right when it started to become interesting. I hate short-term thinking in TV stations.
Losing Andreas Katsulas was the biggest loss to the series. Richard Biggs was great as Stephen Franklin but G'kar was such a great character. Even a new Babylon 5 series wouldn't be the same without him.
 

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I just got to the episode with Penn & Teller. I love Penn & Teller, but I fear this is going to be a huge let down...
 

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Oh, I love that episode. Not because of Penn & Teller but because of the "Day of the Dead" plot :)
I didn't know it at the time i originally watched it. but that was my first introduction to the work of Neil Gaiman. afterwards i found out it was him i started finding out more about his work and that would end up with me discovering "The Sandman" comic book series.
 

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Yeah, it did get interesting. First Penn & Teller who did not fit on B5 at all, then this!

I CAN'T MASTURBATE TO THIS!
 

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heh, the only one I've seen outside the internet is the Futurama one.

It's a full time job avoiding watching star trek and star wars... I'm not into sci fi anyway.
Your enjoyment of Futurama must be severely limited since all the show creators and writers are huge sci-fi geeks and especially Star Trek. You must miss 3/4 of the references. Not to mention you must have no idea why Zapp Brannigan is funny at all.

 
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AKA, The Force, to be specific to this discussion.
It's worse than that. In the Star Wars universe we are never given explanations as to how things that might be possible work which makes it even less Sci-Fi worthy.

NERD RANT

For example in Star Trek it's pretty well established how transporters work, how warp drive works, and there are several episodes devoted to it. There are rules to it and they actually have grounding in our current theories.

In Star Wars, we don't get any explanations how anything works, it just does. We don't know how hyper drive works, we don't know what fuel they use (in fact we see them fueling fighters before the battle of Yavin and never again), we don't know how a light saber works. Luke gets in his X-wing and just goes to Dagobah.

STAR TREK NERD RANT

(The reboot of Star Trek, the 2009 movie, is very Star Wars like in its mindset -- lots of goofs and "whatever" moments that never would have passed muster in old Trek. For example, just so they could make the shuttle bay look big some grunt at ILM scaled the ship bigger and bigger to where it's officially way too gargantuan and is bigger than the Enterprise D -- but they didn't scale up the rest of the ship's details like windows and doorways so the crew would feel like midgets. By the size of the windows and the decks, clearly the ship is meant to be roughly the same size as the original Enterprise, but then you have to throw out the cavernous shuttlebay scene. In fact nobody inolved in the movie is even willing to give an actual size and there have been contradictory statements made. Watch the Plinkett review for more examples like the turbolift botching).

 
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It's worse than that. In the Star Wars universe we are never given explanations as to how things that might be possible work which makes it even less Sci-Fi worthy.
In Star Wars, we don't get any explanations how anything works, it just does. We don't know how hyper drive works, we don't know what fuel they use (in fact we see them fueling fighters before the battle of Yavin and never again), we don't know how a light saber works. Luke gets in his X-wing and just goes to Dagobah.
No it is not explained, because it would get in the way of the actual story, which is what drives all six films. That is why Star Wars has universal appeal to many genres, whereas Star Trek seems to appeal to a much narrower audience. Apples and Oranges, neither is superior.

If you want to know more about the Star Wars Universe, it is not going to be handed to you passively. You got to do some research, because it is all there, you just got to know where to look.

Oh, and by the way: Here is the article on Hyperdrive.
 
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No it is not explained, because it would get in the way of the actual story, which is what drives all six films. That is why Star Wars has universal appeal to many genres, whereas Star Trek seems to appeal to a much narrower audience. Apples and Oranges, neither is superior.

If you want to know more about the Star Wars Universe, it is not going to be handed to you passively. You got to do some research, because it is all there, you just got to know where to look.

Oh, and by the way: Here is the article on Hyperdrive.
This. Spent a lot of hours reading articles on lots of stuff on the Wookiepeedia.
 
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STAR TREK NERD RANT

(The reboot of Star Trek, the 2009 movie, is very Star Wars like in its mindset -- lots of goofs and "whatever" moments that never would have passed muster in old Trek. For example, just so they could make the shuttle bay look big some grunt at ILM scaled the ship bigger and bigger to where it's officially way too gargantuan and is bigger than the Enterprise D -- but they didn't scale up the rest of the ship's details like windows and doorways so the crew would feel like midgets. By the size of the windows and the decks, clearly the ship is meant to be roughly the same size as the original Enterprise, but then you have to throw out the cavernous shuttlebay scene. In fact nobody inolved in the movie is even willing to give an actual size and there have been contradictory statements made. Watch the Plinkett review for more examples like the turbolift botching).

Yeah but that's just sloppy production design.

Star Trek always suffered from having "too many cooks", if you know what I mean. But many of the Trekkies are also a bit weird. When Babylon 5 came out, JMS was actually instructed by Star Trek fans, that the things he does in B5, are wrong, because Star Trek showed very clearly, how things will be in space travel of the future :rolleyes:
 
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