- Jun 14, 2012
- Indiana, USA
- 2006 Mazda MX-5
I haven't heard of someone who robbed a gas station out of hunger and got sentenced to 20 years... I consider that fantasy. At least in Germany, a country, where no one needs to suffer from hunger, no matter how poor.
"Gribkowsky was found guilty of corruption, tax evasion and breach of trust, and was sentenced to eight and a half years in prison."
This is what's wrong with society... Rob a gas station to try to feed your family cos there's an economic crisis caused by bankers, get 20 years.
Rob 60 millions, get 8.5
Anyway, seems Bernie is up shit creek without a paddle. We'll see what happens.
You've obviously never tried to live off Hartz IV, else you'd know what hunger is. Germany is just as bad as any other banana republic.
I know but I cannot let something like that unanswered, just because it is off-topic
There are two kinds of poverty in Germany, maybe even three:
1. The people who, due to psychological or other circumstances, fall out of the welfare systems: people losing their jobs and subsequently homes and due to lack of a social net to pick them up and an inability to contact the authorities to push through welfare applications end up homeless and, if they were not already before, drug-dependent and/or mentally ill as a result. These are the people you see begging for money on subway trains and street corners.
2. Welfare recipients: Due to the bad design of the "Hartz IV" welfare system and the unbelievably low monthly payout (try living off 382 Euros a month, with no extra money to replace broken household appliances/buy clothes/etc), Hartz IV may enable you to survive, but not to live. Additionally, keeping the "Job Center" happy so they won't cut your payout for being a suspected freeloader is almost a full-time job, reducing the time you can spend actually looking for a job. To make matters worse, you can't just opt out of Hartz IV anytime you like: You have to prove that you secured a stable income. If you just got a well-paid freelance gig for a month that will enably you to get by for, say, the next three to four months, they won't let you off the hook, but take 90% of your paycheck as a payback of the welfare money you received and you'll stay on welfare, thank you, next in like.
These are the people who you'll see collecting bottles.
3. The third group could be integrated into the second: The working poor. More than a third of Hartz IV
victimsrecipients are actually working half or even full time in some shit service industry job that pays them less than their Hartz IV payout would be, so they get a partly Hartz IV payment in order to get by. This mostly affects single mothers.
Bernie Ecclestone wins court case relating to F1 sale
Bernie Ecclestone has won a High Court case relating to the sale of Formula 1 in 2005, but the court ruled the deal was corrupt.
A London judge dismissed the claim from German company Constantin Medien against Ecclestone over his involvement in the sale of the sport's rights to CVC nine years ago.
German banker Gerhard Gribkowsky was jailed for eight and a half years for corruption over the agreement, which relates to a $44 million payment he received from Ecclestone at the time.
Judge Guy Newey said Ecclestone had paid the bribe to Gribkowsky, but dismissed Constantin Medien's claim that Ecclestone tried to undervalue Formula 1 in order to help the sale to CVC.
Constantin Medien had sued Ecclestone for up to $144 million.
"The payments were a bribe," judge Newey wrote in his conclusions.
"They were made because Mr Ecclestone had entered into a corrupt agreement with Dr Gribkowsky in May 2005 under which Dr Gribkowsky was to be rewarded for facilitating the sale of BLB's shares in the Formula One group to a buyer acceptable to Mr Ecclestone."
He added: "It was no part of Mr Ecclestone's purpose ... to be sold at an undervalue."
Ecclestone will stand trial in April in Germany after being indicted in July in connection to an alleged 45 million Euro bribe paid to Gribkowsky.
The 83-year-old stepped down from his role on Formula 1's management board last month following the news that he would stand trial.