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lip said:
368hp ALFA ROMEO 159 SW 3.2 AWD wagon
Professional Novidem compressor upgrade... here on Autoscout24.ch

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159 is not a bad car, but 3.2 JTS (which is actually not an Italian engine, just a Holden block with Italian head) with the Q4 system is not a recommended configuration. The car is extremely heavy (attacking 1900kg, mine is 400 kg lighter) and thirsty, not that fast nor much fun to drive (I imagine the supercharger eliminated the first problem and maybe halved the second).

Dr_Grip said:
What could possibly go wrong?
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The engine, most likely.

CraigB said:
Everything, but it'll very pretty to look at on the side of the road when the inevitable happens.
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:rolleyes: Next time I'll joke about the reliability of some USDM Fix Or Repair Daily's I've actually never seen in person :p

gaasc said:
Unlikley, as with 350+ HP and an FWD-biased system it will probably torque steer into a ditch before it breaks down :p
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False, the Q4 is actually mildly rear-biased as 57% of the torque goes to the back in standard contitions. The Q4 is no bloody Haldex, but a proper 3-diff AWD.
 
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gt1750 said:
False, the Q4 is actually mildly rear-biased as 57% of the torque goes to the back in standard contitions. The Q4 is no bloody Haldex, but a proper 3-diff AWD.
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Somebody should go mad and convert one to RWD only!
 
Mitchi said:
Somebody should go mad and convert one to RWD only!
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Just disabling the TC gets you to 22/78 RWD. If you want 100%, it was discussed in theory here. Personally, I see no point in doing that. You want RWD? Get a car that was engineered and tested with RWD, conversions are likely to be half-assed and unbalanced because the base car simply wasn't suited for that.

CraigB said:
Five bucks if you can tell me one I haven't heard before. :D
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"Vlastnit Forda, to je morda!" - Passed in Czech Republic between generations of Ford-hating, VAG-adoring motorists (and shamelessly stolen from Germany, where they say "Ford ist Mord!")

Should I PM you my Paypal? :lol:
 
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gt1750 said:
"Vlastnit Forda, to je morda!" - Passed in Czech Republic between generations of Ford-hating, VAG-adoring motorists (and shamelessly stolen from Germany, where they say "Ford ist Mord!")

Should I PM you my Paypal? :lol:
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Send it, but give me a better explanation as to why "Owing a Ford is murder". Just seems odd.
 
CraigB said:
Send it, but give me a better explanation as to why "Owing a Ford is murder". Just seems odd.
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As in financial sense, because you have spend a lot on parts and service.

But truth be told, I don't see Euro Fords being much worse than their VAG or GM (Opel) counterparts... It's just fanboys hating on each other, as always.

EDIT: Also I'm not sending anything as I don't really take this whole thing seriously (I believed the :p smileys gave that away) and I hope neither do you. I was just kinda tired of the remarks on Alfa reliability, made mostly out of habit.
 
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There is also "Er f?hrt Ford(t) und kam nie wieder .." - he drove Ford and never came back ... roughly translated.

Which is a result from a lot of lemons ford build in the late 80's / 90's. The Fiesta MK I for instance. The bodyshell rusted out faster because of poor wax conservation, before the engine could implode. A Similar story with the Escort MK iV where the car was notourisly known for blown up engines (especially small displacement units).

There were a few gems though The Scorpio MkI and Sierra MK I are considered rocksolid.
 
gt1750 said:
As in financial sense, because you have spend a lot on parts and service.

But truth be told, I don't see Euro Fords being much worse than their VAG or GM (Opel) counterparts... It's just fanboys hating on each other, as always.

EDIT: Also I'm not sending anything as I don't really take this whole thing seriously (I believed the :p smileys gave that away) and I hope neither do you. I was just kinda tired of the remarks on Alfa reliability, made mostly out of habit.
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It's all in jest. As you know I only have one Ford product these days and it's some weird mashup of European and American.

Seriously though, send me a PayPal address or a charity and I'll donate $5 to it.


Bobele23 said:
There is also "Er f?hrt Ford(t) und kam nie wieder .." - he drove Ford and never came back ... roughly translated.

Which is a result from a lot of lemons ford build in the late 80's / 90's. The Fiesta MK I for instance. The bodyshell rusted out faster because of poor wax conservation, before the engine could implode. A Similar story with the Escort MK iV where the car was notourisly known for blown up engines (especially small displacement units).

There were a few gems though The Scorpio MkI and Sierra MK I are considered rocksolid.
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That one is quite funny, actually. Internet points for you.
 
CraigB said:
It's all in jest. As you know I only have one Ford product these days and it's some weird mashup of European and American.

Seriously though, send me a PayPal address or a charity and I'll donate $5 to it.
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I know, Sierras are actually kinda cool. Anyway no Paypal or charity, I'd rather see you use those 5 bucks to get some ice cream for your son :)
 
Bobele23 said:
There is also "Er f?hrt Ford(t) und kam nie wieder .." - he drove Ford and never came back ... roughly translated.

Which is a result from a lot of lemons ford build in the late 80's / 90's. The Fiesta MK I for instance. The bodyshell rusted out faster because of poor wax conservation, before the engine could implode. A Similar story with the Escort MK iV where the car was notourisly known for blown up engines (especially small displacement units).

There were a few gems though The Scorpio MkI and Sierra MK I are considered rocksolid.
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That particular sentiment, if not in those precise words, was well known here at about the same time. Ford's advertising catch phrase of the time was "Have you driven a Ford lately?" to which people would reply, "Yes, which is why I bought something else!"

Exhibit A for why:
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Bobele23 said:
There is also "Er f?hrt Ford(t) und kam nie wieder .." - he drove Ford and never came back ... roughly translated.

Which is a result from a lot of lemons ford build in the late 80's / 90's. The Fiesta MK I for instance. The bodyshell rusted out faster because of poor wax conservation, before the engine could implode. A Similar story with the Escort MK iV where the car was notourisly known for blown up engines (especially small displacement units).

There were a few gems though The Scorpio MkI and Sierra MK I are considered rocksolid.
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While we're on topic... any good Manta joke ?
 
You know why they decided that the Manta C will be only a meter wide?
So the driver can have both elbows out of the windows!

You know why they abandoned that plan?
Cause the "KENWOOD" sticker would not fit the rear window.
 
Why have most Manta drivers a bale of straw on the passenger seat?
It's blonde.

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A Manta driver has a broken rear window, he goes into the shop for a new one...
"I want the one made by Kenwood."
 
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LOL! Loving those Manta jokes!!
 
CraigB said:
Everything, but it'll very pretty to look at on the side of the road when the inevitable happens.
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Ask our resident southern German (I'm blanking on his username) how his Alfa wagon has been holding up. When I asked him about reliability, he stated that it was mostly hype on the unreliability part.
 
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