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Burnout question

Thrasher

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this my sound like a dumb question but how, in a normal car, do you do a burnout.


What I mean is, how are the wheels able to keep spinning if you have to apply the brakes to prevent the car from moving? I know dragsters havea special system that only locks the front brakes to enable a burnout but normal cars have brakes on all four wheels.

Do do a burnout I figure you rev the engine then drop the clutch to get the wheels spinning. Then what? how are you even supposed to apply the brakes if your foot is on the gas?


Am I missing something?
 
You apply the brakes with your left foot, rally racing style. The wheels are spinning because the car isn't in gear yet (manual tranny), so your foot isn't on the brake then. You press both the "loud pedal" and the brake at the same time with both feet, and adjust the pressure on both so you don't break anything.

With a front-drive car (which is much harder) the E-brake is used, so the rear wheels are locked in place while the front wheels pull and shred the tires. There might be more into it for an actually successful burnout, though. I've never tried it, but I should... :shifty:

Also, this might help. Sure taught me something!
 
Basically what BlaRo said. I've never done one because I'm not a fan of burnouts.
 
OOOOOOOH right. Now I get it. NOt that I'm going to try it anytime soon because I don't have my liscense or my own car (although I can get my liscnese anytime now) and I don't want to be breaking anything. That would not be good :bangin: :thumbsdown:
 
Don't do a burn out without a LSD, it's a good way to blow an open diff to bits. ;)
 
It's a good way to blow many things to bits. Though i find it easiest with a big ci v8 and a auto tranny, my truck did a pretty good burn out, in my stupid idiot erra.
 
BlaRo said:
You apply the brakes with your left foot, rally racing style. The wheels are spinning because the car isn't in gear yet (manual tranny), so your foot isn't on the brake then. You press both the "loud pedal" and the brake at the same time with both feet, and adjust the pressure on both so you don't break anything.

Didn?t you meant auto? I know the theory, but your description seemed somewhat confusing...in a manual you would have to press all 3 pedals at the same time, at least to get it started.
With a front-drive car (which is much harder) the E-brake is used, so the rear wheels are locked in place while the front wheels pull and shred the tires. There might be more into it for an actually successful burnout, though. I've never tried it, but I should... :shifty:

Also, this might help. Sure taught me something!

I would say it?s easier in a front wheel drive car. Lock parking brake, rev the engine, release clutch and watch your drivetrain suffer.
 
Think he missed the step.

Basically rev the bugger out of the car, drop the clutch, rear should start spinning. A bit of brake should stop the car from moving forward. Unless you have a locked diff, you usually end up with a dounut ...

Auto ... yea, full brake, get the torque convertor slipping as high as you can go and release brake. Might work, but manual is easier. Once again a bit of brake to stop the car from moving forward ...

FF ... same thing. But rather than brake, just yank on hand brake. Problem is FF with the diff and the smoking tyre up front, will heat up the engine quicker than a rear wheelers. Also a lot less impressive =P.

4WD/AWD. Pretty much impossible to burnout. Usually end up with tight donuts with the car spinning around quickly. Watch rally clips where Grohome, etc do a "burn out" to celebrate victory and you will get what I mean.

The easiest thing to do a burn out in? Bikes, grip the front brake, lean forward, and smoke the rear.
 
I think the easiest to burn is an auto....press the brake firmly, then hit the gas...I tried it once or twice in my Dad's Sonoma...lit up one tire really easily. If you had an LSD, might not be as easy..
 
yipming said:
4WD/AWD. Pretty much impossible to burnout. Usually end up with tight donuts with the car spinning around quickly. Watch rally clips where Grohome, etc do a "burn out" to celebrate victory and you will get what I mean.

it depends what you call a burnout... my cousin's have done wheelspins on Subaru Impreza, Forester STI and the Mitsu. Galant VR4... with enough power, all of them managed to get have all 4 wheels spinning for about 1sec before taking off.
 
Redliner said:
BlaRo said:
You apply the brakes with your left foot, rally racing style. The wheels are spinning because the car isn't in gear yet (manual tranny), so your foot isn't on the brake then. You press both the "loud pedal" and the brake at the same time with both feet, and adjust the pressure on both so you don't break anything.

Didn?t you meant auto? I know the theory, but your description seemed somewhat confusing...in a manual you would have to press all 3 pedals at the same time, at least to get it started.
You hold down the clutch first, with your foot on the accelerator revving the engine up. The car's not going anywhere because your left foot is still on the clutch.

Redliner said:
I would say it?s easier in a front wheel drive car. Lock parking brake, rev the engine, release clutch and watch your drivetrain suffer.
Now that I think about it... :oops:
 
RWD -
most cars brake systems are biased towards the front wheels (hence the reason the front wheels gather brake dust quicker than the rear) this means the first measure of brake fluid is diverted to only the front wheels. so by applying the right amount of pressure to the pedal, you can lock the front wheels, and allow full spin on the rear.
hold brake
first gear
hit gas
slip clutch
modulate break to keep car still


now i have noted on many audis and vw's the rear wheels get dirty quicker, and have heard it stated that those cars actually have a rear-biased braking system.... hmmm...
 
I rather smoke my tires going sideways........... 8)
 
andyhui01 said:
yipming said:
4WD/AWD. Pretty much impossible to burnout. Usually end up with tight donuts with the car spinning around quickly. Watch rally clips where Grohome, etc do a "burn out" to celebrate victory and you will get what I mean.

it depends what you call a burnout... my cousin's have done wheelspins on Subaru Impreza, Forester STI and the Mitsu. Galant VR4... with enough power, all of them managed to get have all 4 wheels spinning for about 1sec before taking off.

that's called wheelspin, not a burnout... proof: he can't hold it.

sandor_ said:
now i have noted on many audis and vw's the rear wheels get dirty quicker, and have heard it stated that those cars actually have a rear-biased braking system.... hmmm...

No way, all cars have a front biased braking system, otherwise it would be way too dangerous.
 
Renesis said:
andyhui01 said:
yipming said:
4WD/AWD. Pretty much impossible to burnout. Usually end up with tight donuts with the car spinning around quickly. Watch rally clips where Grohome, etc do a "burn out" to celebrate victory and you will get what I mean.

it depends what you call a burnout... my cousin's have done wheelspins on Subaru Impreza, Forester STI and the Mitsu. Galant VR4... with enough power, all of them managed to get have all 4 wheels spinning for about 1sec before taking off.

that's called wheelspin, not a burnout... proof: he can't hold it.

sandor_ said:
now i have noted on many audis and vw's the rear wheels get dirty quicker, and have heard it stated that those cars actually have a rear-biased braking system.... hmmm...

No way, all cars have a front biased braking system, otherwise it would be way too dangerous.

i know. thats whats strange about it. but look at some audis and vw's. a number of them i see have caked on brake dust on the rear wheels and clean front wheels. i'll take photos the next time i see it...
 
Z3R0 117 said:
I rather smoke my tires going sideways........... 8)
yea but at the track if you dont clean off your tires by spining them, you will get shitty traction. i could ttell even with my 155 hp. plus i would rather get really sticky tires and grip like all hell.

haha i have a pic of my burnout at the track in my sig :D
 
sandor_ said:
Renesis said:
sandor_ said:
now i have noted on many audis and vw's the rear wheels get dirty quicker, and have heard it stated that those cars actually have a rear-biased braking system.... hmmm...

No way, all cars have a front biased braking system, otherwise it would be way too dangerous.

i know. thats whats strange about it. but look at some audis and vw's. a number of them i see have caked on brake dust on the rear wheels and clean front wheels. i'll take photos the next time i see it...

Are you messing TT's front and rear? My previous and my actual Audi gets the front wheels dirty much much faster. And every other one I've seen.[/quote]
 
patrick10 said:
Z3R0 117 said:
I rather smoke my tires going sideways........... 8)
yea but at the track if you dont clean off your tires by spining them, you will get shitty traction. i could ttell even with my 155 hp. plus i would rather get really sticky tires and grip like all hell.

haha i have a pic of my burnout at the track in my sig :D

What A Waste Of a good 240SX......


Don't Make it go straght., Go Out Drifting Enjoy the RWD fun....
 
Z3R0 117 said:
patrick10 said:
Z3R0 117 said:
I rather smoke my tires going sideways........... 8)
yea but at the track if you dont clean off your tires by spining them, you will get shitty traction. i could ttell even with my 155 hp. plus i would rather get really sticky tires and grip like all hell.

haha i have a pic of my burnout at the track in my sig :D

What A Waste Of a good 240SX......


Don't Make it go straght., Go Out Drifting Enjoy the RWD fun....
i dont drift or go straight ;)

drifting is a spectator sport. i would rather have proof of my skill than judgements.


also there is nothing wrong with dragging a 240. i believe there are a few 8 second silvias out there with stock irs
 
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