"Be The Match" Registered
- Apr 5, 2006
- Utah, USA
- 06 XTerra, '00 VFR800, '07 ST1300, '11 Multistrada
So this is something I've discussed with @D-Fence about and I will disagree with some things, I'm not completely against it. HERE ME OUT.Heated seats as a service? BMW wants to sell car features on demand
This is a different thing. What I'm seeing from @D-Fence's explanation is, the OEM builds a top trim level car, but you pay for what you want, so it's just like buying a base, or mid trim level. Later on you go "I want radar cruise control for a trip" so you pay for that for the moment instead of perhaps renting a car with it already and blowing money on a car you don't own.So they learned nothing from that time they wanted Carplay to be a service.
No, you're not.Am I the only one who sees buying a subscription to turn on the AC as a bad thing?
Satellite radio, GM's OnStar, I get your point, but we've had some of this already. I do wonder if the subscription means they will fix it for free, seems most reports I have found don't talk about that aspect.No, you're not.
I am a bit surprised how everyone just goes "Sure! I am fine having something installed in the car that I can't use unless I pay for it."
So, the company spent the money purchasing the parts and installing it but you can only use it unless you paid...I can see how they can save money by just standardizing the manufacture process, but this still sounds stupid.
GPS service is different @93Flareside. You get updates and it's a network that has a maintenance cost, so I see it as justifiable.
If the heated seats in my BMW fail 15 years from now and the fact that I was paying for them means BMW will fix it for free, since it's a service they are providing, THEN I can see some benefit for the customer.
Far from it. And the arguments in favor around here seem to be "Well, this also means that you will be able to hack new features into your car like you can do with VAG-COM" completely ignoring that manufacturers will likely prevent that being so easy the second they realize that they are losing subscription service revenue. I unfortunately cannot abide any system in which the advantages hinge rather heavily on a corporation acting out of the goodness of their hearts.Am I the only one who sees buying a subscription to turn on the AC as a bad thing?
Satellite radio is not just attached to the car, you can get a satellite radio for your home and use the same account. Also, the car maker is not providing the satellite radio service - they provide the hardware to receive the signal - Sirius or whomever is the one you are buying from and include a "free trial" with the purchase of the car. A comparison would be if I subscribe to Hot Ass, which will heat any seat I happen plonk my cheeks on, including my car's seat.Satellite radio, GM's OnStar, I get your point, but we've had some of this already. I do wonder if the subscription means they will fix it for free, seems most reports I have found don't talk about that aspect.
What's your opinion on BMW using the same engine but with different tunes at different price points? They've been doing this for years, in any new car you're already carrying around bits that are turned off.This is absurd, end of story. The car either has a piece of equipment, or it does not. This is another attempt to maximize profits, and it smells like a skunk dipped in shit.
What's your opinion on BMW using the same engine but with different tunes at different price points? They've been doing this for years, in any new car you're already carrying around bits that are turned off.
Yes. There is a reasoned argument to be done there and BMW are not the only manufacturer doing it. The idea being that you just make the one engine and sell it in different stages of tune saves on development, engineering, manufacturing, and, depending on location, regulation costs.Are you saying that it is not a different head or a cam in the engine, just an adjustment within the computer? If that is the case, no, fuck BMW. I haven't seen much from them I would want to own anyway.