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CIA Torture techniques...revealed...

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Thats really bad. I think it gets to point that the CIA agents get so frustrated that they do this.
 
wow, didnt think they would do things like that. The bellyslap didnt sound all that terrible though, the Water board is pretty harsh.
 
Again, where is the solution?

I am ok with criticism of some tactics used but if not VIABLE alternative is available or offered you are stuck in a catch 22.

How do you get information out of someone to save lives of others? Unless we can read minds it gets very difficult to do easily.

Anyone here want to offer their suggestion of a better method?
 
As of right now I do not think there is any other method. They have a truth serum don't they? But I think its illegal to use.

I suppose the best way to extract information from people is to improve upon the negotiation techniques, but the techniques they use today are so complex that it would be hard to improve upon them.

If a person has valuable information they can go pretty far to keep that information valuable. But when you factor in mental and physical torture, the belief that the torture can stop if you talk is big time.

I really don't know what to change really to extract information from people by non-torture methods.
 
No, but the best/most effective solution isn't necessarily the legal one. So do you prefer to throwing human right aboard just because you might get answers quicker that way ? Are those answers worth the prisoner abuse and possible damage of reputation ? And what happened to the beacon of light and democracy. How on earth are you going to set a positve example for the rest of the world to follow as some Americans like to claim.

Your agencies are getting more and more like the people they're trying to fight until the point where one can wonder where the difference between them ane the one they're fighting is.
 
I'd rather get the "Belly Slap" than have my genitals slowly torn off by a sharp hook.

People are becoming too sensitive.
These CIA techniques are like children's games compared to what real torture is.
And I wouldn't be surprised that the CIA would do something even more vulgar than what was listed there.
 
light and democracy don't exist in war.

IMO, the only real reason to torture is in revenge. If someone killed my family for example, I'd think nothing of cutting thier digits off one by one, skinning them alive and dunking them in sulfuric acid, in theory(I probably don't have the balls). It may be useful to get information to a certain extent, but you must wonder at what point does the subject just tell you what you want to hear? Also most of these terrorists don't have any outside knowledge of what other "cells" are doing. If I were running a terrorist operation, I damn sure wouldn't tell Jihadist1 what Jihadist2 was up to.

As for the techniques, well I give my girlfriend and my brothers belly slaps all the time, we call it a "turkey", lol. Honestly none of that really sounds too bad(as far as torture goes), there are far worse techniques.

These guys are all Muslims right? Why not threaten to drown them in pigs blood?
 
I think the expansion of the media and where the media is today affects what we know and therefore our feelings about this information.

What you don't know won't hurt you.
 
From what I understand, the information garnered through torture is unreliable. Before one decides to torture another, how can they be sure they know anything? If somebody was about to torture me (And i didn't know anything), I'd make things up.....anything to prevent/stop it.
 
Exactly. I would just say whatever BS I thought they would believe, or have a predetermined misdirection planned out with my nefarious counterparts so that we would all "confess" to the same shit, making them believe it's real and thus directing them away from the real information.

If you don't think your underlings are smart enough to do this, you could always just tell them some bullshit that htye think is real, they all confess to the same thing, and voila, misdirected once again.
 
They should start by either stopping it or shutting the fuck up when their soldiers get tortured.

They have to do what they say before they expect others to do it. :thumbsdown:
 
Exactly. I would just say whatever BS I thought they would believe, or have a predetermined misdirection planned out with my nefarious counterparts so that we would all "confess" to the same shit, making them believe it's real and thus directing them away from the real information.

If you don't think your underlings are smart enough to do this, you could always just tell them some bullshit that htye think is real, they all confess to the same thing, and voila, misdirected once again.
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zenkidori, I seriously doubt after you told them some bullshit they will say, "Okay we got what we wanted, you are free to go."

Don't you think they would verify the info they just got. Wouldn't that be the relevant thing to do after getting information, to verify it?

They should start by either stopping it or shutting the fuck up when their soldiers get tortured.

They have to do what they say before they expect others to do it.
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Ren, standing for 40hrs is nothing compared to what Vietnamese have done to our soldiers or having a gun pointed to your head and pretend to kill you (the gun wouldnt be loaded) or even beheaded like others (terrorists) have done to (civilian) captives in Iraq.

All in all we have to remember these tactics are trying to get information from people to prevent attacks on innocent people.

If a terrorist, Zarqawi for instance, had to die to save 10 innocent people, I wouldn't hesitate one bit.
 
If they have a way to verify something then why are they torturing me? You interrogate to get new information, not to verify what you already know. And as I said, if a few of your captured buddies are saying the same BS, they have no way of knowing it's not fake.

I don't think that the terrorists or thier supporters in question have any room to talk about unethical tactics.
 
I meant the information that they got from you, they would verify that it was truth or useful and that you weren't saying it to stop the torture.
 
lol...he already answered that. If they (the torturer) know the truth already, why are they torturing you?

but again. What if the person who is being tortured knows nothing at all? What would prevent him from being tortured? or what would stop the torture already in progress?
 
Ok I think there is a misunderstanding.

CIA guys captures Terrorists A.

CIA guy tortures terrorists to get info on an attack that has been rumored to happen.

Terrorists guy will say he knows nothing, and if he is consistent I am sure the CIA guy could tell that.

Terrorist guy knows something and coughs it up then the CIA guy tries to verify it, stop the attack and would ultimately know if it was factual info.

If it was Im sure there would be no need for more torture, unless other info can be obtained OR the info was verified to be false, he was lied to and the CIA guy would torture some more to get the truth.



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lol...so in other words, if you know something and spill it...you get tortured some more. And if you make something up, you get tortured some more.....

i'm not sure I agree that if the suspected terrorist says he knows nothing, that the CIA agent could tell (without torturing). Maybe they use a polygraph.

It just seems that torture would likely be used in all scenarios, whether you know nothing, told something, or told a lie.
 
Well the thing about all this is that none of us know for sure when, how and if these tactics would be used. We can only speculate.
 
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