Sure but the facts are not in question here, the conclusion is. The entire point of the article is to arrive at the conclusion stated in the headline. This is exactly how propaganda is created, cherry pick some facts and draw a false conclusion. I would think given the history of your country you’d understand why some of us are so unhappy with that article, especially from a well regarded publication.If that's your takeaway then you misunderstood me. I'll reiterate: If you take a bunch of facts and came to a BS conclusion from those, that conclusion being BS doesn't invalidate the facts you used to come to that BS conclusion - those facts can still be facts.
Not in part, completely. Always vote for women!That we should base our votes in part on gender? Total nonsense
I talked about the facts, you veered off into race baiting. Here we areSure but the facts are not in question here, the conclusion is.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/17/tech/elon-musk-ventilators-california/index.htmlElon Musk says he sent ventilators to California hospitals, they say they got something else instead
nurse designs mask with 99.5% filtration efficiency
No you tried to defend a shitty opinion piece by going “well at least some of the facts were correct”I talked about the facts, you veered off into race baiting. Here we are
Were they not?No you tried to defend a shitty opinion piece by going “well at least some of the facts were correct”
Not relevant.Were they not?
Yes. Everyone gets a participation award.Can we just move the fuck on?
Fuck it, I'll get political for one post.
Trump has been acting against COVID-19 all along, while the Democrats and the mainstream media (but I repeat myself) bad-mouthed him for it. Meanwhile, China constantly lied and Europe didn't react all that early either (can't blame them - they didn't have a crystal ball).
Want evidence from such a wide variety of sources that even you can't complain?
- Jan 14 - the WHO tweets out that there is no evidence of human-to-human transmission of COVID-19.
- Jan 15 - first patient with COVID-19 enters the US from Wuhan. Nancy Pelosi hands out the impeachment pens.
- Jan 17 - passenger screenings begin at major international airports across the US.
- Jan 24 - LA Times writes about how this Coronavirus is nowhere near as bad as previous ones and really not even as bad as the flu; tells people not to panic. https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-01-24/china-coronavirus-panic
- Jan 29 - NPR says that the flu is a much bigger deal than the Coronavirus and your chances of catching COVID-19 are "exceedingly low". https://www.npr.org/sections/health...coronavirus-in-the-u-s-flu-is-a-bigger-threat
- Also Jan 29 - NY Times tells everyone not to panic. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/29/opinion/coronavirus-panic.html
- Jan 31 - Trump impelements travel restrictions on China. On this same day Nancy Pelosi introduces the "No Ban Act" to stop Trump from restricting travel from China; they didn't finally rescind the bill until Mar 12. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ho...-rescind-travel-ban-amid-coronavirus-outbreak
- Also Jan 31 - WaPo writes that the Coronavirus seems scarier than it actually is. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...ins-make-coronavirus-seem-scarier-than-it-is/
- Also Jan 31 - Vox tweets out that this won't be a deadly pandemic. They later deleted the tweet. https://www.thewrap.com/vox-deletes-january-tweet-coronavirus-not-deadly/
- Also Jan 31 - Trump declares a health emergency. https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020...alth-emergency-us-2019-novel-coronavirus.html
- Feb 1 - USA Today writes that the flu is deadlier and more widespread than the Coronavirus. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...widespread-than-wuhan-china-virus/4632508002/
- Feb 3 - WHO chief says widespread travel bans not needed to beat China virus. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-not-needed-to-beat-china-virus-idUSKBN1ZX1H3
- Also Feb 3 - WaPo writes that travel bans and quarantines are totally unnecessary. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...n-aggressive-government-response-coronavirus/
- Feb 4 - Trump talks about safeguarding the country from the Coronavirus in his SOTU address.
- Feb 5 - NY Times piece says that the China travel ban is "unjust" and traveling there is totally safe. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/opinion/china-travel-coronavirus.html
- Also Feb 5 - first case of COVID-19 in the US.
- Feb 13 - Mayor de Blasio tells people to go to Chinatown, completely ignoring that residents of Chinatown are obviously more likely to have traveled to China recently. https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-...amber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0
- Feb 18 - Associated Press talks about how the flu is deadlier than COVID-19. https://apnews.com/6f7d691099b499bbf38fdfe7875126e0
- Feb 20 - CNN is more concerned about racism than the virus itself, noting that the flu is far more dangerous. https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/us/coronavirus-racist-attacks-against-asian-americans/index.html
- Feb 24 - Trump asks Congress for $2.5bil to help fight the Coronavirus. Nancy Pelosi instead decided to focus on much more important things, such as flavored tobacco. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/24/trump-coronavirus-budget-request-117275
- Also Feb 24 - Nancy Pelosi tells people to go to Chinatown. See de Blasio comment above. https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/nancy-pelosi-visits-san-franciscos-chinatown/2240247/
- Feb 29 - there are about 70 cases in the US. The first American dies from the virus. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/1st-coronavirus-death-u-s-officials-say-n1145931
- Mar 10 - Italy extends lockdowns across the entire country. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51810673
- Mar 12 - Trump bans travel from Europe. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/trump-bans-travel-from-europe-here-what-you-need-to-know.html
- Also Mar 12 - EU condemns the travel ban. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51857462
- Mar 13 - CNBC headline calls the travel ban "politically motivated". https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/13/tru...pe-is-politically-motivated-analysts-say.html
- Mar 14 - Spain imposes nationwide lockdown. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-set-to-order-nationwide-coronavirus-lockdown
- Also Mar 14 - Vox advocates against travel restrictions. https://www.vox.com/2020/3/12/21176669/travel-ban-trump-coronavirus-china-italy-europe
- Mar 16 - Trump rolls out "15 Ways To Slow The Spread". https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/15-days-slow-spread/
- Mar 26 - The Daily Wire writes about how it was the Obama administration that depleted our stockpiles of PPE in 2009 and never replenished them. Oh wait, you don't think that's a credible source! Well, USA Today did a fact check on that and verified the claim. https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/these-30-days-how-you-can-help/
- Apr 2 - Trump pushes for another 30 days to slow the spread. https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/these-30-days-how-you-can-help/
Want to know why I didn't want to bring politics into this thread when it was first posted? Because I knew that you (and others, but mostly you) would post nothing but ignorant opinion pieces bashing Trump. And sure enough, here we are in the midst of a global pandemic, a time when you'd think we'd set aside our political differences, come together, and do our best to survive, and you're constantly bashing Trump as if he could've predicted the future. I, for one, am glad that Trump didn't listen to Pelosi, de Blasio, or the media, but you've never said boo about their nonsense, have you?
Can't wait to come back to the typical nonsensical one-liner response from you!
Jan. 23
WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in a statement that it was too early to declare the coronavirus outbreak a public health emergency of international concern. "Make no mistake. This is an emergency in China, but it has not yet become a global health emergency. It may yet become one."
Jan. 24
In a tweet, Trump praised China for its efforts to prevent the spread of the virus. "China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!"
Jan. 29
Dr. Mike Ryan, head of the WHO's Health Emergencies Programme, said, "The whole world needs to be on alert now. The whole world needs to take action and be ready for any cases that come from the epicenter or other epicenter that becomes established."
Jan. 30
At a campaign rally in Iowa, Trump talked about the U.S. partnership with China to control the disease. "We only have five people. Hopefully, everything's going to be great. They have somewhat of a problem, but hopefully, it's all going to be great. But we're working with China, just so you know, and other countries very, very closely. So it doesn't get out of hand."
Tedros announced that the outbreak had become a "public health emergency of international concern over the global outbreak of novel coronavirus."
Feb. 2
In an interview with Sean Hannity, Trump said, "We pretty much shut it down coming in from China." His executive order banning anyone who has been in China in the previous 14 days — with exceptions, including for U.S. citizens, lawful permanent residents and their close family members — went into effect.
Feb. 4
At a WHO briefing, Tedros urged that there be no travel bans. "We reiterate our call to all countries not to impose restrictions that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade. Such restrictions can have the effect of increasing fear and stigma, with little public health benefit. ... Where such measures have been implemented, we urge that they are short in duration, proportionate to the public health risks and are reconsidered regularly as the situation evolves."
Feb. 10
At a campaign rally in Manchester, N.H., Trump said: "Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. I hope that's true. But we're doing great in our country. China, I spoke with President Xi, and they're working very, very hard. And I think it's going to all work out fine."
Feb. 11
At a WHO briefing, Tedros urged world leaders to give priority to containing the virus: "To be honest, a virus is more powerful in creating political, economic and social upheaval than any terrorist attack. A virus can have more powerful consequences than any terrorist action, and that's true. If the world doesn't want to wake up and consider this enemy virus as Public Enemy Number 1, I don't think we will learn our lessons."
Feb. 13
In an interview with Geraldo Rivera, Trump characterized the threat of the virus in the U.S. by saying: "In our country, we only have, basically, 12 cases, and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered. So it's actually less."
Feb. 24
In a tweet, Trump wrote, "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"
Feb. 26
In a news conference, Trump said: "When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
Feb. 28
The WHO raises the global risk of the coronavirus from "high" to "very high."
March 5
In a WHO briefing, Tedros praised China and the U.S. for taking "the right approach." He said: "After our visit to Beijing and seeing China's approach, and President Xi leading that, and also in the U.S., President Trump himself, and also for regular coordination, designating the vice president. These are the approaches we're saying are the right ones, and these are the approaches we're saying are going to mobilize the whole government."
In a Fox News town hall, Trump said, "It's going to all work out. Everybody has to be calm. It's all going to work out."
Going back even farther, Trump dismantled the national stockpile of PPE, fired the CDC official assigned to China to keep these outbreaks contained, ignored intelligence warnings going back to November of 2019, and put "Pray It Away" Pence in charge of half-measures 4 months late.The early screenings were limited to 3 or 4 airports, and they were done at the direction of the CDC, not Trump.
Here is an article that is a timeline of what the WHO and Trump said. You will notice that you left out of your timeline the WHO's warning on the 30th of January.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...navirus-comments-from-president-trump-and-who
A Timeline Of Coronavirus Comments From President Trump And WHO
More at the link.
NopeIs anyone else excited to see how this is going to come together?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coronavirus-singapore-response_n_5e97cf3cc5b65eae709f1370I Was Exposed To Coronavirus In Singapore. Here’s What Their Rapid Response Looks Like.
Singapore has been lauded as a “gold standard” of COVID-19 mitigation, thanks to contact tracing and widespread testing. But there’s a cost.
Going back even farther, Trump dismantled the national stockpile of PPE, fired the CDC official assigned to China to keep these outbreaks contained, ignored intelligence warnings going back to November of 2019, and put "Pray It Away" Pence in charge of half-measures 4 months late.
What's most impressive is that it took Trump only three years to undo the progress of presidents going back to the 1990s.