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Eurostar train cliffhanging in Italy yesterday (pics)

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Here it hangs, between Bari og Taranto in Italia yesterday .. this is due to rain, lots of rain ..

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OMFG!!!
How the hell did it managed to stop so spot on? That could have been one HUGE disaster! Daaaam...
 
Yeah, saw that on the news yesterday, it happend to some roads too.
 
WOW the whole bridge has completely dissapeared!! That must have been a LOT of rain. :shock:
 
I don't get it... in europe when a train track crosses the river, they just lay the train track and no foundation?
 
andyhui01 said:
I don't get it... in europe when a train track crosses the river, they just lay the train track and no foundation?
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is that a river ? didnt all the base of the track erode away because of the rain or something ?
 
andyhui01 said:
I don't get it... in europe when a train track crosses the river, they just lay the train track and no foundation?
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That's not the case. You see those channels all around Italy. They're meant to direct the rainwater or the snowmelt coming from the mountains. Without them it would simply run through the city streets.

In this case I guess there must have been more water than the canal could handle, thus collapsing the concrete bridge structure that was there once.

It could have been improper maintenance as well. Who knows ?
 
andyhui01 said:
I don't get it... in europe when a train track crosses the river, they just lay the train track and no foundation?
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That's the odd thing. The water took the foundations away.
 
DAMN! That is crazy! :shock: :shock:
 
They musta seen it was out and braked early or perhpas they were going slow...

And what kinda moronic company runs a high speed train after heavy heavy rain without checking the track first? :bangin:
 
^ Thats the whole mystery for me. With such a train, the operator basically is sitting in the cabin to monitor things. At such speeds he can't really react to things unless warned by computer/dispatcher (sp?).

So, if they knew the track was damaged, why did they run trains in the 1st place, and 2nd why didn't they alert the train operator earlier?

However if they didn't know about the damage, how the hell did this train travelling at 250km/h+ stop exactly at the edge, like in some holywood movie? It's not a car that you can stop with within a few hundred metres. So unless the operator used binoculars to watch a few km's ahead, and unless that particular track segment was straight for miles so that his vision with the binoculars was clear...I really can't think of what exactly happend.
 
but dont they have some kind of control center where they can monitor that the track is fine and if it isnt stop the trains???
 
Well, maybe a couple of km before the disappeared bridge, there is some kind of hill so the conductor could clearly see that something happened. I suppose it's just luck that the train ended there and not a couple of metres further.
 
the news reports i found about this make it even worse, since i read on this italian source that it was actually the last car that derailed, which would mean that the whole train passed over the gap before stopping. there have also been 22 minor injuries which should not happen by an emergency stop alone...
in addition, trains in italy do travel on the left side from my knowledge (and the local commuter train i took from rome to ostia three weeks ago did actually), so that would support the idea that the whole train went over it.
if its all true the passengers have been damn lucky!
i also think the italian high speed trains don't go that fast, maybe 200kph max and not everywhere. this area was called a hilly one in the news reports, so maybe it only went 120 or 160, so the driver might have seen the gap, hit the brakes and screeched to a halt just after crossing it.

i'm still looking for some more details...no news on the trenitia site, although the do have a news subsection entitled "news on strikes". thats something you can only find in italy or maybe also france, where they it would make the news when there is a day with no strike once. :lol:
 
its true, the whole train passed over it and derailed, you can see that all cars are derailed on this picture and they travel on the left side.
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if someone speaks italian, here is a good source:
http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Cronache/2005/10_Ottobre/23/maltempo.shtml

the babelfish translation of that says that the train passed over it. maybe the structure just collapsed as the train passed over it, the train derailed and stopped, the earth was washed away and now it looks as if the train passed over the gap.
 
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