Mr.K said:
How much is the R8 even going to cost? I quicky googled for a price figure and it landed around $90,000-100,000 in which case they're not really the same price. Also, we're talking about a car that isn't even out yet, so determining reliability and performance is just pure speculation.
As far as the Z06 goes, its fast, and I've seen magazines that have gotten it down to a 3.6 second 0-60, rather then the stated 3.7.
amaerican car magazines manage that with every car, and the real life owner will never be able to replicate those times. And the R8 is going to undercut the 911 carrera S in entry level guise.
They've kicked ass in sports car racing for 50 years, and have been dominating Le Mans for quite some time now, and those are a hell of a lot closer related to the road cars than an R8 and R10 Le Mans racer is.
Ie not very advanced, but why exactly are you beliving in the marketing BS? I love it when americans think taht how witha couple modifications they could turn theyre Z06 into a C6R :lol:
And last i heard the astom martin DBR9's were quite a bit faster than the C6R's. The only place the Vettes have been winning is on home soil. The C6R is one of the few american cars that has competed on a world stage.
And as for the other series that Audi has competed in, the Quattro only was really successful in Group B rally for the first year, then it was getting beaten even by the rear wheel drive Lancia 037
The quattro absolutely dominated the field do you even know what your talking about? The Groupe B quattro was unbeatable, apart ffrom on tarmac, where RWD had the advantage.
In DTM, Mercedes AMG has done quite well against the Audis as well.
is true, but in the other touring car championships were there were no Mercedes audi wiped the floor. They obliterated the american cars in tehyre own series in the 80's.
s far as Audi's road cars go, they've consistently been nose heavy pigs until this very latest generation (which still has the engine too far up front really). Reliability-wise they're quite spotty as well, barely being average in JD Power ratings. Then of course you get the uber-sized repair costs that the Germans are so fond of.
You get free servicing for the first couple years of the cars life, and you americans know nothing about servicing costs. try running a car in europe. ASnd yes they were nose heavy because the chassis are still from the VW platform sharong days. The A6 and new TT are nothing like that though, and neither is the S8.
As for JD power :lol: They always contradict themselves and theres like 3 different surveys of the same thing with different results.
And really, do you not realize how much time 15 seconds is over a single lap? Learn a thing or two about racing.
Yeah except that the 'ring is a huge track, and the RS4 is a 4 seater sedan, and started off life as a car that carries people from a to b in semi luxury. The RS4 is QUICKER than the C6 :lol: Similiar power, alot more weight, not purpose built racer, yet it still quicker :lol:
As for the range topping model, it sure as hell isn't going to be anywhere near $70,000, especially if its lighter and more powerful than a Gallardo as you claim it will be.
Lambo are gonna majorly up the ante with the gallardo, its gonna get lighter, RWD and have alot more power. And audi arent exactly gonna charge +10,000 over its entry level model.
I would like to see proof porsche (or anyone else) hasn't gone on empty track.
I can do that, and I wont even quote from the factory times. Search on this forum for the sportauto 'ring list. Some of those times are quicker than the factory effeort and was done on a public day, ie there were other cars on the track at the same time, and the car was stock straight from the dealer.
Not to mention it's a stripped out, caged, and tuned purpose-built track car.
Read up on the 997, its meant to be a rather comfortable car, and its not all that stripped out, thats what the GT3 RS is for.