Ironlord
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...quite literally.
Some of you will have missed
this BBC blog:
There's a comment at the end:
Now, we will see how it'd turn out if every race had been stopped 15 laps before the end - or after the pit stops for the top eight have been finalised, if (as in the case in Australia) they were still going on at the 15-lap cutoff point! And it's all thanks to lovely, lovely FORIX... how did I do without this site for so long?
Are you bracing yourselves for the most anorakish post since... the last time vikirad posted here? Then I'll begin!
AUSTRALIA
Classification after 58 laps: Hamilton, Heidfeld, Rosberg, Alonso, Kovalainen, Nakajima, Bourdais, R?ikk?nen
Classification after 46 laps: Kovalainen, Hamilton, Heidfeld, Barrichello, Rosberg, Bourdais, Kubica, Alonso
Points: Kovalainen 10, Hamilton 8, Heidfeld 6, Barrichello 5, Rosberg 4, Bourdais 3, Kubica 2, Alonso 1
MALAYSIA
Classification after 56 laps: R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Kovalainen, Trulli, Hamilton, Heidfeld, Webber, Alonso
Classification after 46 laps: R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Kovalainen, Trulli, Hamilton, Heidfeld, Webber, Alonso
Points: Kovalainen 16, Hamilton 12, R?ikk?nen/Kubica 10, Heidfeld 9, Barrichello/Trulli 5, Webber/Rosberg 4, Bourdais 3, Alonso 2
BAHRAIN
Classification after 57 laps: Massa, R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Heidfeld, Kovalainen, Trulli, Webber, Rosberg
Classification after 48 laps: Massa, R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Heidfeld, Kovalainen, Trulli, Webber, Rosberg
Points: Kovalainen 20, R?ikk?nen 18, Kubica 16, Heidfeld 14, Hamilton 12, Massa 10, Trulli 8, Webber 6, Barrichello/Rosberg 5, Bourdais 3, Alonso 2
SPAIN
Classification after 66 laps: R?ikk?nen, Massa, Hamilton, Kubica, Webber, Button, Nakajima, Trulli
Classification after 55 laps: R?ikk?nen, Massa, Hamilton, Kubica, Webber, Button, Nakajima, Trulli
Points: R?ikk?nen 28, Kubica 21, Massa/Hamilton 18, Heidfeld 14, Webber 10, Trulli 9, Barrichello/Rosberg 5, Button/Bourdais 3, Nakajima/Alonso 2
TURKEY
Classification after 58 laps: Massa, Hamilton, R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Heidfeld, Alonso, Webber, Rosberg
Classification after 49 laps: Massa, Hamilton, R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Heidfeld, Alonso, Webber, Rosberg
Points: R?ikk?nen 34, Massa 28, Hamilton/Kubica 26, Kovalainen 20, Heidfeld 18, Webber 12, Trulli 9, Rosberg 6, Alonso/Barrichello 5, Button/Bourdais 3, Nakajima 2
MONACO
Classification after 76 laps: Hamilton, Kubica, Massa, Webber, Vettel, Barrichello, Nakajima, Kovalainen
Classification after 61 laps: Hamilton, Kubica, Massa, Sutil, R?ikk?nen, Webber, Barrichello, Nakajima
Points: R?ikk?nen 38, Hamilton 36, Massa/Kubica 34, Kovalainen 20, Heidfeld 18, Webber 15, Trulli 9, Barrichello/Rosberg 6, Sutil/Alonso 5, Button/Bordais 3, Vettel/Nakajima 2
CANADA
Classification after 70 laps: Kubica, Heidfeld, Coulthard, Glock, Massa, Trulli, Rosberg, Vettel
Classification after 55 laps: Kubica, Heidfeld, Coulthard, Barrichello, Glock, Trulli, Massa, Vettel
Points: Kubica 44, R?ikk?nen 38, Hamilton/Massa 36, Heidfeld 26, Kovalainen 20, Webber 15, Trulli 12, Barrichello 11, Rosberg/Coulthard 6, Sutil/Alonso 5, Glock 4, Vettel/Bourdais/Button 3, Nakajima 2
FRANCE
Classification after 70 laps: Massa, R?ikk?nen, Trulli, Kovalainen, Kubica, Piquet, Alonso
Classification after 55 laps: Massa, R?ikk?nen, Trulli, Kovalainen, Kubica, Alonso, Piquet
Points: Kubica 48, R?ikk?nen/Massa 46, Hamilton 36, Heidfeld 26, Kovalainen 25, Webber/Trulli 18, Barrichello 11, Alonso 7, Rosberg/Coulthard 6, Sutil 5, Glock 4, Bourdais/Vettel/Button 3, Nakajima 2, Piquet 1
GREAT BRITAIN
Classification after 60 laps: Hamilton, Heidfeld, Barrichello, R?ikk?nen, Kovalainen, Alonso, Trulli, Nakajima
Classification after 48 laps: Hamilton, Heidfeld, Barrichello, Kovalainen, Alonso, R?ikk?nen, Nakajima, Trulli
Points: R?ikk?nen 49, Kubica 48, Hamilton/Massa 46, Heidfeld 34, Kovalainen 30, Trulli 19, Webber 18, Barrichello 17, Alonso 11, Rosberg/Coulthard 6, Sutil 5, Nakajima/Glock 4, Vettel/Bourdais/Button 3, Piquet 1
GERMANY
Classification after 67 laps: Hamilton, Piquet, Massa, Heidfeld, Kovalainen, R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Vettel
Classification after 54 laps: Piquet, Massa, Hamilton, Heidfeld, Kovalainen, Kubica, R?ikk?nen, Trulli
Points: Massa 54, Hamilton 52, R?ikk?nen/Kubica 51, Heidfeld 39, Kovalainen 34, Trulli 20, Webber 18, Barrichello 17, Alonso/Piquet 11, Rosberg/Coulthard 6, Sutil 5, Nakajima/Glock 4. Vettel/Button/Bourdais 3
HUNGARY
Classification after 70 laps: Kovalainen, Glock, R?ikk?nen, Alonso, Hamilton, Piquet, Trulli, Kubica
Classification after 55 laps: Massa, Kovalainen, Glock, R?ikk?nen, Alonso, Hamilton, Piquet, Trulli
Points: Massa 64, R?ikk?nen 56, Hamilton 55, Kubica 51, Kovalainen 42, Heidfeld 39, Trulli 21, Webber 18, Barrichello 17, Alonso 15, Piquet 13, Glock 10, Coulthard/Rosberg 6, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Bourdais/Vettel/Button 3
EUROPE
Classification after 57 laps: Massa, Hamilton, Kubica, Kovalainen, Trulli, Vettel, Glock, Rosberg
Classification after 44 laps: Massa, Hamilton, Kubica, Kovalainen, Trulli, R?ikk?nen, Vettel, Glock
Points: Massa 74, Hamilton 63, R?ikk?nen 59, Kubica 57, Kovalainen 47, Heidfeld 39, Trulli 25, Webber 18, Barrichello 17, Alonso 15, Piquet 13, Glock 11, Coulthard/Rosberg 6, Sutil/Vettel 5, Nakajima 4, Bourdais/Button 3
BELGIUM
Classification after 44 laps: Massa, Heidfeld, Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel, Kubica, Bourdais, Webber
Classification after 34 laps: R?ikk?nen, Hamilton, Massa, Alonso, Bourdais, Vettel, Heidfeld, Kubica
Points: Massa 80, Hamilton 71, R?ikk?nen 69, Kubica 58, Kovalainen 47, Heidfeld 41, Trulli 25, Alonso 20, Webber 18, Barrichello 17, Piquet 13, Glock 11, Vettel 8, Bourdais 7, Rosberg/Coulthard 6, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Button 3
ITALY
Classification after 53 laps: Vettel, Kovalainen, Kubica, Alonso, Heidfeld, Massa, Hamilton, Webber
Classification after 38 laps: Vettel, Kovalainen, Kubica, Alonso, Heidfeld, Massa, Hamilton, Webber
Points: Massa 83, Hamilton 73, R?ikk?nen 69, Kubica 64, Kovalainen 55, Heidfeld 45, Trulli/Alonso 25, Webber 19, Vettel 18, Barrichello 17, Piquet 13, Glock 11, Bourdais 7, Rosberg/Coulthard 6, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Button 3
SINGAPORE
Classification after 61 laps: Alonso, Rosberg, Hamilton, Glock, Vettel, Heidfeld, Coulthard, Nakajima
Classification after 51 laps: Alonso, Rosberg, Hamilton, Glock, R?ikk?nen, Vettel, Heidfeld, Coulthard
Points: Massa 83, Hamilton 79, R?ikk?nen 73, Kubica 64, Kovalainen 55, Heidfeld 47, Alonso 35, Trulli 25, Vettel 21, Webber 19, Barrichello 17, Glock 16, Rosberg 14, Piquet 13, Coulthard/Bourdais 7, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Button 3
JAPAN
Classification after 67 laps: Alonso, Kubica, R?ikk?nen, Piquet, Trulli, Vettel, Massa, Webber
Classification after 54 laps: Alonso, Kubica, R?ikk?nen, Piquet, Trulli, Bourdais, Vettel, Webber
Points: Massa 83, Hamilton/R?ikk?nen 79, Kubica 72, Kovalainen 55, Heidfeld 47, Alonso 45, Trulli 29, Vettel 23, Webber 20, Piquet 18, Barrichello 17, Glock 16, Rosberg 14, Bourdais 10, Coulthard 7, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Button 3
CHINA
Classification after 56 laps: Hamilton, Massa, R?ikk?nen, Alonso, Heidfeld, Kubica, Glock, Piquet
Classification after 42 laps: Hamilton, Massa, R?ikk?nen, Alonso, Heidfeld, Kubica, Glock, Piquet
Points: Massa 91, Hamilton 89, R?ikk?nen 85, Kubica 75, Kovalainen 55, Heidfeld 51, Alonso 50, Trulli 29, Vettel 23, Webber 20, Piquet 19, Glock 18, Barrichello 17, Rosberg 14, Bourdais 10, Coulthard 7, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Button 3
BRAZIL
Classification after 71 laps: Massa, Alonso, R?ikk?nen, Vettel, Hamilton, Glock, Kovalainen, Trulli
Classification after 56 laps: Massa, Alonso, R?ikk?nen, Hamilton, Vettel, Kovalainen, Glock, Trulli
Points: Massa 101, Hamilton 94, R?ikk?nen 91, Kubica 75, Kovalainen/Alonso 58, Heidfeld 51, Trulli 30, Vettel 27, Glock/Webber 20, Piquet 19, Barrichello 17, Rosberg 14, Bourdais 10, Coulthard 7, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Button 3
And what that does for the constructors...
Ferrari 192, McLaren 152, BMW 126, Renault 77, Toyota 50, Toro Rosso 37, Red Bull 27, Honda 20, Williams 18, Force India 5, Super Aguri 0.
The conclusion: it's not just Felipe who wants the races to be shorter; so would Kimi, Adrian Sutil and Nelson Piquet as well!
Some of you will have missed
this BBC blog:
Massa spent much of Monday's test session snoozing in Ferrari's motorhome, even though the five-star Montecastillo Resort where he is staying is right next to the circuit.
...
The 27-year-old wants races to be shorter, reasoning: "In the last 15 laps nobody cares about the race".
If Massa's suggestion had been taken up in 2008, things could have been different for the Brazilian.
Let's see; instead of retiring from the Hungarian GP because of engine failure with three laps to go, he would have won the race and that would eventually have been enough to pip Lewis Hamilton to the 2008 title.
There's a comment at the end:
That'd be interesting.... remove the last 15 laps from every race last year (i.e. Australia '08 finished on lap 43 instead of 58) and tot up all the points. That would be an interesting blog entry. See who benefits most, or see who wakes up most at the end!
Now, we will see how it'd turn out if every race had been stopped 15 laps before the end - or after the pit stops for the top eight have been finalised, if (as in the case in Australia) they were still going on at the 15-lap cutoff point! And it's all thanks to lovely, lovely FORIX... how did I do without this site for so long?
Are you bracing yourselves for the most anorakish post since... the last time vikirad posted here? Then I'll begin!
AUSTRALIA
Classification after 58 laps: Hamilton, Heidfeld, Rosberg, Alonso, Kovalainen, Nakajima, Bourdais, R?ikk?nen
Classification after 46 laps: Kovalainen, Hamilton, Heidfeld, Barrichello, Rosberg, Bourdais, Kubica, Alonso
Points: Kovalainen 10, Hamilton 8, Heidfeld 6, Barrichello 5, Rosberg 4, Bourdais 3, Kubica 2, Alonso 1
MALAYSIA
Classification after 56 laps: R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Kovalainen, Trulli, Hamilton, Heidfeld, Webber, Alonso
Classification after 46 laps: R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Kovalainen, Trulli, Hamilton, Heidfeld, Webber, Alonso
Points: Kovalainen 16, Hamilton 12, R?ikk?nen/Kubica 10, Heidfeld 9, Barrichello/Trulli 5, Webber/Rosberg 4, Bourdais 3, Alonso 2
BAHRAIN
Classification after 57 laps: Massa, R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Heidfeld, Kovalainen, Trulli, Webber, Rosberg
Classification after 48 laps: Massa, R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Heidfeld, Kovalainen, Trulli, Webber, Rosberg
Points: Kovalainen 20, R?ikk?nen 18, Kubica 16, Heidfeld 14, Hamilton 12, Massa 10, Trulli 8, Webber 6, Barrichello/Rosberg 5, Bourdais 3, Alonso 2
SPAIN
Classification after 66 laps: R?ikk?nen, Massa, Hamilton, Kubica, Webber, Button, Nakajima, Trulli
Classification after 55 laps: R?ikk?nen, Massa, Hamilton, Kubica, Webber, Button, Nakajima, Trulli
Points: R?ikk?nen 28, Kubica 21, Massa/Hamilton 18, Heidfeld 14, Webber 10, Trulli 9, Barrichello/Rosberg 5, Button/Bourdais 3, Nakajima/Alonso 2
TURKEY
Classification after 58 laps: Massa, Hamilton, R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Heidfeld, Alonso, Webber, Rosberg
Classification after 49 laps: Massa, Hamilton, R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Heidfeld, Alonso, Webber, Rosberg
Points: R?ikk?nen 34, Massa 28, Hamilton/Kubica 26, Kovalainen 20, Heidfeld 18, Webber 12, Trulli 9, Rosberg 6, Alonso/Barrichello 5, Button/Bourdais 3, Nakajima 2
MONACO
Classification after 76 laps: Hamilton, Kubica, Massa, Webber, Vettel, Barrichello, Nakajima, Kovalainen
Classification after 61 laps: Hamilton, Kubica, Massa, Sutil, R?ikk?nen, Webber, Barrichello, Nakajima
Points: R?ikk?nen 38, Hamilton 36, Massa/Kubica 34, Kovalainen 20, Heidfeld 18, Webber 15, Trulli 9, Barrichello/Rosberg 6, Sutil/Alonso 5, Button/Bordais 3, Vettel/Nakajima 2
CANADA
Classification after 70 laps: Kubica, Heidfeld, Coulthard, Glock, Massa, Trulli, Rosberg, Vettel
Classification after 55 laps: Kubica, Heidfeld, Coulthard, Barrichello, Glock, Trulli, Massa, Vettel
Points: Kubica 44, R?ikk?nen 38, Hamilton/Massa 36, Heidfeld 26, Kovalainen 20, Webber 15, Trulli 12, Barrichello 11, Rosberg/Coulthard 6, Sutil/Alonso 5, Glock 4, Vettel/Bourdais/Button 3, Nakajima 2
FRANCE
Classification after 70 laps: Massa, R?ikk?nen, Trulli, Kovalainen, Kubica, Piquet, Alonso
Classification after 55 laps: Massa, R?ikk?nen, Trulli, Kovalainen, Kubica, Alonso, Piquet
Points: Kubica 48, R?ikk?nen/Massa 46, Hamilton 36, Heidfeld 26, Kovalainen 25, Webber/Trulli 18, Barrichello 11, Alonso 7, Rosberg/Coulthard 6, Sutil 5, Glock 4, Bourdais/Vettel/Button 3, Nakajima 2, Piquet 1
GREAT BRITAIN
Classification after 60 laps: Hamilton, Heidfeld, Barrichello, R?ikk?nen, Kovalainen, Alonso, Trulli, Nakajima
Classification after 48 laps: Hamilton, Heidfeld, Barrichello, Kovalainen, Alonso, R?ikk?nen, Nakajima, Trulli
Points: R?ikk?nen 49, Kubica 48, Hamilton/Massa 46, Heidfeld 34, Kovalainen 30, Trulli 19, Webber 18, Barrichello 17, Alonso 11, Rosberg/Coulthard 6, Sutil 5, Nakajima/Glock 4, Vettel/Bourdais/Button 3, Piquet 1
GERMANY
Classification after 67 laps: Hamilton, Piquet, Massa, Heidfeld, Kovalainen, R?ikk?nen, Kubica, Vettel
Classification after 54 laps: Piquet, Massa, Hamilton, Heidfeld, Kovalainen, Kubica, R?ikk?nen, Trulli
Points: Massa 54, Hamilton 52, R?ikk?nen/Kubica 51, Heidfeld 39, Kovalainen 34, Trulli 20, Webber 18, Barrichello 17, Alonso/Piquet 11, Rosberg/Coulthard 6, Sutil 5, Nakajima/Glock 4. Vettel/Button/Bourdais 3
HUNGARY
Classification after 70 laps: Kovalainen, Glock, R?ikk?nen, Alonso, Hamilton, Piquet, Trulli, Kubica
Classification after 55 laps: Massa, Kovalainen, Glock, R?ikk?nen, Alonso, Hamilton, Piquet, Trulli
Points: Massa 64, R?ikk?nen 56, Hamilton 55, Kubica 51, Kovalainen 42, Heidfeld 39, Trulli 21, Webber 18, Barrichello 17, Alonso 15, Piquet 13, Glock 10, Coulthard/Rosberg 6, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Bourdais/Vettel/Button 3
EUROPE
Classification after 57 laps: Massa, Hamilton, Kubica, Kovalainen, Trulli, Vettel, Glock, Rosberg
Classification after 44 laps: Massa, Hamilton, Kubica, Kovalainen, Trulli, R?ikk?nen, Vettel, Glock
Points: Massa 74, Hamilton 63, R?ikk?nen 59, Kubica 57, Kovalainen 47, Heidfeld 39, Trulli 25, Webber 18, Barrichello 17, Alonso 15, Piquet 13, Glock 11, Coulthard/Rosberg 6, Sutil/Vettel 5, Nakajima 4, Bourdais/Button 3
BELGIUM
Classification after 44 laps: Massa, Heidfeld, Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel, Kubica, Bourdais, Webber
Classification after 34 laps: R?ikk?nen, Hamilton, Massa, Alonso, Bourdais, Vettel, Heidfeld, Kubica
Points: Massa 80, Hamilton 71, R?ikk?nen 69, Kubica 58, Kovalainen 47, Heidfeld 41, Trulli 25, Alonso 20, Webber 18, Barrichello 17, Piquet 13, Glock 11, Vettel 8, Bourdais 7, Rosberg/Coulthard 6, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Button 3
ITALY
Classification after 53 laps: Vettel, Kovalainen, Kubica, Alonso, Heidfeld, Massa, Hamilton, Webber
Classification after 38 laps: Vettel, Kovalainen, Kubica, Alonso, Heidfeld, Massa, Hamilton, Webber
Points: Massa 83, Hamilton 73, R?ikk?nen 69, Kubica 64, Kovalainen 55, Heidfeld 45, Trulli/Alonso 25, Webber 19, Vettel 18, Barrichello 17, Piquet 13, Glock 11, Bourdais 7, Rosberg/Coulthard 6, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Button 3
SINGAPORE
Classification after 61 laps: Alonso, Rosberg, Hamilton, Glock, Vettel, Heidfeld, Coulthard, Nakajima
Classification after 51 laps: Alonso, Rosberg, Hamilton, Glock, R?ikk?nen, Vettel, Heidfeld, Coulthard
Points: Massa 83, Hamilton 79, R?ikk?nen 73, Kubica 64, Kovalainen 55, Heidfeld 47, Alonso 35, Trulli 25, Vettel 21, Webber 19, Barrichello 17, Glock 16, Rosberg 14, Piquet 13, Coulthard/Bourdais 7, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Button 3
JAPAN
Classification after 67 laps: Alonso, Kubica, R?ikk?nen, Piquet, Trulli, Vettel, Massa, Webber
Classification after 54 laps: Alonso, Kubica, R?ikk?nen, Piquet, Trulli, Bourdais, Vettel, Webber
Points: Massa 83, Hamilton/R?ikk?nen 79, Kubica 72, Kovalainen 55, Heidfeld 47, Alonso 45, Trulli 29, Vettel 23, Webber 20, Piquet 18, Barrichello 17, Glock 16, Rosberg 14, Bourdais 10, Coulthard 7, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Button 3
CHINA
Classification after 56 laps: Hamilton, Massa, R?ikk?nen, Alonso, Heidfeld, Kubica, Glock, Piquet
Classification after 42 laps: Hamilton, Massa, R?ikk?nen, Alonso, Heidfeld, Kubica, Glock, Piquet
Points: Massa 91, Hamilton 89, R?ikk?nen 85, Kubica 75, Kovalainen 55, Heidfeld 51, Alonso 50, Trulli 29, Vettel 23, Webber 20, Piquet 19, Glock 18, Barrichello 17, Rosberg 14, Bourdais 10, Coulthard 7, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Button 3
BRAZIL
Classification after 71 laps: Massa, Alonso, R?ikk?nen, Vettel, Hamilton, Glock, Kovalainen, Trulli
Classification after 56 laps: Massa, Alonso, R?ikk?nen, Hamilton, Vettel, Kovalainen, Glock, Trulli
Points: Massa 101, Hamilton 94, R?ikk?nen 91, Kubica 75, Kovalainen/Alonso 58, Heidfeld 51, Trulli 30, Vettel 27, Glock/Webber 20, Piquet 19, Barrichello 17, Rosberg 14, Bourdais 10, Coulthard 7, Sutil 5, Nakajima 4, Button 3
And what that does for the constructors...
Ferrari 192, McLaren 152, BMW 126, Renault 77, Toyota 50, Toro Rosso 37, Red Bull 27, Honda 20, Williams 18, Force India 5, Super Aguri 0.
The conclusion: it's not just Felipe who wants the races to be shorter; so would Kimi, Adrian Sutil and Nelson Piquet as well!