evoWALO
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In future I would not be surprised that FujiFILM GFX medium format bodies will hit these price points occupied by full frame bodies
$4k
- 2016 Canon EOS-1D X Mark II
- 2021 Fujifilm GFX 50S II ($3.5k summer promo price)
$3.9k
- 2020 Canon EOS R5
$3.7k
- 2019 Panasonic Lumix DC-S1R
$3.5k
- 2019 Panasonic Lumix DC-S1H
- 2020 Sony a7S III
$3k
- 2020 Nikon Z7 II
- 2021 Sony a7R IVA
$2.5k
- 2019 Panasonic Lumix DC-S1
- 2020 Canon EOS R6
- 2021 Sony a7 IV
- 2022 Fujifilm X-H2S (Highest-end X-mount body & may serve as the bottom price for GFX bodies)
$1.5k
- 2015 Canon EOS 5DS R (Cheapest 50+ megapixel body was $3.9k in 2015)
Going after Phase One, Hassleblad & Leica medium format customers are secondary concern as the core medium format market is roughly 6000 units per year – worldwide, for all pre-2013 brands. It's that small because typical medium format bodies goes for more than $10k & lenses more than $3.3k
To frame the FujiFILM G system we need to look at the other players...
Leica S medium format system started in 2008.
- $20k for the single 2020 Leica S3 body
- $5k-12.5k price range for 16 lenses with the last lens, Leica Summicron-S 100 mm f/2 ASPH being released in 2014
FujiFILM G system started in 2017 & has these price points
- $3.5-10k for 3 body SKUs with the last body, Fujifilm GFX 50S II being released 53 weeks ago
- $1k-3.3k price range for 15 lenses with the last two lenses, being released later this year
FujiFILM G medium format systems value proposition is as follows
- medium format hardware
- in a dSLR form factor
- at a dSLR physical dimension & weight
- R3 & R5 price points
- RF L lens price range
This is more damaging to current Canon, Sony & Nikon customers than those of Leica, Hassleblad or any other medium format brand.
An indicator of this would be FujiFILMs marketing tagline is "More than Full Frame". If you're a medium format user prior to 2017 the tagline is something to shrug over. But if you're a long time full frame or smaller user then its a big deal.
APS-C & smaller image sensors are losing ground to smartphones so brands are moving to full frame.
Pentax failed in their executions probably due to resource reasons as they did not go further beyond the 2014 Pentax 645Z & 2015 HD Pentax-D FA645 35mm F3.5 AL [IF]. Ive read an article that they had problems fulfilling demand for the $8.5k body that now retails at $5k. I remember feeling surprised by it being the cheapest medium format body at the time.
New lowest price is $3.5k 2021 FujiFILM GFX 50S II body-only during the summer promo price.
The $10k 2019 Fujifilm GFX 100 is the oldest SKU with its successor, the 2021 Fujifilm GFX 100S costing $6k. It has the same 100+ megapixel 0.79x crop image sensor.
Many are complaining about Canon defending its RF system from 3rd party reverse engineering 4 years into their transition.
If I was making that transition to MILC then FujiFILM looks very interesting from a value proposition.
Its weakness for my use case would be its lack of autofocus designed for birds, wildlife or sports.
In 2015 the cheapest way to get native 50+ megapixel was the $3.9k EOS 5Ds R. That was a big deal to many professionals whose clients contractually require 50+ megapixel files.
$4k
- 2016 Canon EOS-1D X Mark II
- 2021 Fujifilm GFX 50S II ($3.5k summer promo price)
$3.9k
- 2020 Canon EOS R5
$3.7k
- 2019 Panasonic Lumix DC-S1R
$3.5k
- 2019 Panasonic Lumix DC-S1H
- 2020 Sony a7S III
$3k
- 2020 Nikon Z7 II
- 2021 Sony a7R IVA
$2.5k
- 2019 Panasonic Lumix DC-S1
- 2020 Canon EOS R6
- 2021 Sony a7 IV
- 2022 Fujifilm X-H2S (Highest-end X-mount body & may serve as the bottom price for GFX bodies)
$1.5k
- 2015 Canon EOS 5DS R (Cheapest 50+ megapixel body was $3.9k in 2015)
Going after Phase One, Hassleblad & Leica medium format customers are secondary concern as the core medium format market is roughly 6000 units per year – worldwide, for all pre-2013 brands. It's that small because typical medium format bodies goes for more than $10k & lenses more than $3.3k
To frame the FujiFILM G system we need to look at the other players...
Leica S medium format system started in 2008.
- $20k for the single 2020 Leica S3 body
- $5k-12.5k price range for 16 lenses with the last lens, Leica Summicron-S 100 mm f/2 ASPH being released in 2014
FujiFILM G system started in 2017 & has these price points
- $3.5-10k for 3 body SKUs with the last body, Fujifilm GFX 50S II being released 53 weeks ago
- $1k-3.3k price range for 15 lenses with the last two lenses, being released later this year
FujiFILM G medium format systems value proposition is as follows
- medium format hardware
- in a dSLR form factor
- at a dSLR physical dimension & weight
- R3 & R5 price points
- RF L lens price range
This is more damaging to current Canon, Sony & Nikon customers than those of Leica, Hassleblad or any other medium format brand.
An indicator of this would be FujiFILMs marketing tagline is "More than Full Frame". If you're a medium format user prior to 2017 the tagline is something to shrug over. But if you're a long time full frame or smaller user then its a big deal.
APS-C & smaller image sensors are losing ground to smartphones so brands are moving to full frame.
Pentax failed in their executions probably due to resource reasons as they did not go further beyond the 2014 Pentax 645Z & 2015 HD Pentax-D FA645 35mm F3.5 AL [IF]. Ive read an article that they had problems fulfilling demand for the $8.5k body that now retails at $5k. I remember feeling surprised by it being the cheapest medium format body at the time.
New lowest price is $3.5k 2021 FujiFILM GFX 50S II body-only during the summer promo price.
The $10k 2019 Fujifilm GFX 100 is the oldest SKU with its successor, the 2021 Fujifilm GFX 100S costing $6k. It has the same 100+ megapixel 0.79x crop image sensor.
Many are complaining about Canon defending its RF system from 3rd party reverse engineering 4 years into their transition.
If I was making that transition to MILC then FujiFILM looks very interesting from a value proposition.
Its weakness for my use case would be its lack of autofocus designed for birds, wildlife or sports.
In 2015 the cheapest way to get native 50+ megapixel was the $3.9k EOS 5Ds R. That was a big deal to many professionals whose clients contractually require 50+ megapixel files.