Germany: Nuclear power plants to close by 2022

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Possibly.

However, since the topic came up, I was reminded of something that came up a couple of months ago and may perhaps be a more nuanced take. A study by the NBER titled "THE PRIVATE AND EXTERNAL COSTS OF GERMANY'S NUCLEAR PHASE-OUT", published in December 2019 (source). An excerpt:

In aggregate, the phase-out led to an increase in CO2 emissions of 36.3 Mt per year. This corresponds to a 13% increase relative to the scenario without the nuclear phase-out.

This increase in CO2 emissions was primarily attributable to an increase in emissions from hard coal plants of 25.8 Mt, with lignite and gas making up the remainder. Valuing carbon emissions at a social cost of carbon of $50/tCO2, the phase-out results in estimated climate change damages of $1.8 billion.

The phase-out also led to a roughly 12% increase in the total emissions of each the three local air pollutants we consider (SO2, NOx, and PM).

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Put another way, the phase-out resulted in more than 1,100 additional deaths per year from increased concentrations of SO2, NOx, and PM. The increase in production from hard coal plants is again the key driver here, making up roughly 80% of the increase in mortality impacts.



Perhaps it would've been a better strategy to replace the nuclear plants with more modern designs, especially in the light of recent events wherein the EU Comission has received documents from their Joint Research Comission that “The analyses did not reveal any science-based evidence that nuclear energy does more harm to human health or to the environment than other electricity production technologies” in light of still ongoing debates (as of August) about labeling nuclear as a "green investment", with France, Finland, and others at the head.

As 2022 approaches, perhaps Germany should at least open the floor to considerations about construction of new, safer nuclear power plants.
 
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Based on what? 🤷‍♂️
Based on increases in energy importation from France and energy generation via Natural Gas the latter now resulting on a dependence and reliance relationship of said Natural Gas from the Russians. Sounds like a great strategy moving forward.
 
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As 2022 approaches, perhaps Germany should at least open the floor to considerations about construction of new, safer nuclear power plants.
At least some RWE person started prominently this week that there’s no way they’re going to run nuclear any longer than currently planned or sth along those lines.

If it were up to me, I’d gladly switch coal vs nuclear - ie have coal phased out by 22, nuclear by 38 (probably earlier).

With regards to gas: the argument doesn’t hold. Gas plants supply short term peaks, nuclear is base load. More/continued nuclear would have an extremely minimal effect (if any) on the operation of gas plants. I agree that using NG as a „bridge fuel“ towards more renewables is dumb and that north stream 2 should never have been commissioned/built. It is entirely unnecessary.
 

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Based on increases in energy importation from France
Wait, what?

Germany is exporting more electricity to France than it is importing from France.

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At least some RWE person started prominently this week that there’s no way they’re going to run nuclear any longer than currently planned or sth along those lines.

How unfortunate. With aggressive climate goals, the pressing need for more energy for everything from BEVs to green hydrogen, I do hope they don't outright leave it off the table.
 

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Well, at this point it probably is just too late… ne nuclear would take way too long to get online and costs an arm and a leg. Would’ve been reasonable to keep running the existing plants and maybe would be a different situation of Germany hadn’t been very firm and decided about the 22 end of nuclear for the last ten years 🤷‍♂️

Stumbled across this, fittingly enough:
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