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Which is the point of having a good lawyer. The justice system is in fact, quite fallible indeed.
Except he was fleeing, and other then being tied up no harm was carried out. If you are that concerned about your family then you should stay with them and call the cops, you shouldn't chase after them as you may be attacked yourself and then where is your family?
So if somebody broke into your house, tied your family up at knife point, and then tried to flee after you broke out of the bonds and threw a coffee table at the intruder, you would let them get away?
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I would chase him down and restrain him on the floor. I wouldn't beat him half to death with weapons. That is the point of this case. With 4 people it shouldn't be hard to restrain a man on the floor without having to resort to smashing him around the head with a metal pole.
So if somebody broke into your house, tied your family up at knife point, and then tried to flee after you broke out of the bonds and threw a coffee table at the intruder, you would let them get away?
It's quite interesting that you guys A) don't trust the courts and B) most likely support the death penalty (no? am I wrong?) because those two things don't go together.
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I would chase him down and restrain him on the floor. I wouldn't beat him half to death with weapons. That is the point of this case. With 4 people it shouldn't be hard to restrain a man on the floor without having to resort to smashing him around the head with a metal pole.
I don't think he was trying to beat the guy half to death, just to restrain him. And if somebody is struggling after I've chased them down, then a whack with a cricket bat seems reasonable to subdue the perp. It just so happens that said bat caused a brain injury.
Four men including, as the jury found, the two of you, armed with weapons then proceeded to carry out a dreadful, violent attack upon him when he was defenceless on the ground.
That attack involved kicking and punching him, stamping upon him and striking him with weapons, including a hockey stick and a cricket bat.
The witness, Miranda McCloughlin, who was at the window immediately adjacent to where the attack was taking place pleaded with you and the two others to stop, telling you that you were going to kill the man on the ground.
She was disregarded and the attack continued. She described you and the other two men involved as acting like a pack of animals. It is purely fortuitous that the man Salem was not killed.
As it was, he suffered a number of fractures, including a skull fracture, and brain damage, giving rise to permanent injury.
And sentencing Mr Hussein to 7 years prison is absolutely ridiculous. Who cares if the dick-wad thief got hurt? He deserved it.
He wasn't sentenced to 7 years, he was sentenced to 2 and half years of which he will serve about 15 months.
I'm with the judge here.
One of the major trademarks of a civilized Western country is the monopoly on violence by the state. It's undisputable for me. A civilized society can only function properly, if everyone accepts and respects that principle.
I can understand the man's fury at the men who threatened his family, but instead of beating the crap out of him, he should have pinned him down and call the police. I don't know about Britain but here there is a thing called "everyone section", which entitles everyone to temporarily arrest another person, when they were caught in an illegal act, e.g. shoplifting or breaking into a car.
I can understand the reflex reaction of "Oh man, that's so unfair, he was just defending his home and family!!" but we are not in the stone age anymore, we don't live in caves and you do not need to hunt down members of another tribe, because nobody else would do it for you.
Our societies have developed since then (well, at least on this side of the Atlantic Ocean ) and folks should adjust to that mentally.
It's unfortunate, that Mr. Hussain got sentenced to jail but he really can be lucky, that it was for such a small amount of time.
Please ask a police officer if its a good idea to try and pin an armed person.
You seem to think it's some Clint Eastwood western. Armed? With what? His arms?You Euros seem to think the world works like a 1960s Batman comic
You seem to think it's some Clint Eastwood western.
You seem to think it's some Clint Eastwood western. Armed? With what? His arms?
I'm curious because according to the compareable statistics between the UK and US (such as homocides) living in the UK is alot safer than living in the US.Also, Clint Eastwood would have shot him. And thats generally what happens if you try that BS here. Which is why it happens less here. Weird how that works out.
I'm curious because according to the compareable statistics between the UK and US (such as homocides) living in the UK is alot safer than living in the US.