nouseferaname90
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yea. I actually kinda like my Hondacura product.
Just know not to deal with that dealer.
Just know not to deal with that dealer.
A company as big and with a reputation like Honda's should have taken care of Blind's problem right away... the amount of money it would cost them to have his dash recalibrated is peanuts for a company like Honda who works so hard at maintaining an image of quality and reliability.
Blind_Io, I promise never to buy a Honda/Acura product ever just because they fucked you over. After reading the whole thread I'm honestly really pissed off because I had a similar situation with my phone (the sales guy told me I had free internet on my blackberry and I wouldn't ever have to pay for it, but it turns out that was true but only for the first month which he never explained...). It's really sad, but I think your best option is to just try to get the odometer fixed yourself. Because if you think about it, all other options will just cause you to have to pay more money.
The only reason to consider it a TMU is ignorance. The car's mileage was noted in accordance to law with the sticker. If the sticker is not there or unreadable, then you might have a TMU issue, but in this case it's not.
The truth is, anyone claiming this particular car is TMU is committing fraud. Full stop.
Steve
I went to a Ford dealer that's north of the Bay Area, where I found out the bad news. I then went to the dealer that did the repair to see what they had to say (they had an 08 Tacoma on the lot that I couldn't afford, but it served the purpose to talk to the sales guy). The sales guy didn't even look at my car, I explained the repair and what I found at Ford and he said, "Yup, that sounds about right for a car with that problem."
What problem? According to Honda North America there is no problem because you "fixed" it! They won't give me a fair trade for the car because of their own repair work!
And guess what? This incident will not hurt Honda's sales or reputation at all.
They are cheap and reliable, and easily replaceable. Great commuting tool.
Of course it will, if they do this to enough people word will eventually get out.
Looks like this retarded way of fixing things with a sticker is their policy, which means lots of people are going to get raped when they try to sell their cars.
They sell over a million cars a year. I honestly don't think their reputation will even take a slightest knock because of this incident, or any unlucky customers with a broken odometer.
Big car companies like Honda has enough customers to be this rude. Sad to say, but they can whatever they want and customers can't really do shit against them.
I think he has a legitimate case. He was misled by the dealership (regarding the repair procedure's affect on the vehicle's value) and that deception has led to quantifiable grievances. There is certainly a case for a civil suit there.^You wouldn't win because they fixed it within the law. Whether it causes an inconvenience or not. And protesting it such a long time after wont help.
Two words: "public relations". If Blind can persuade just one person not to buy a new Honda (the fact he probably won't aside) this supposedly insignificant fiasco will have already cost Honda more than it would've to make it right. This is like PR101, for fucks sake. Just fix the problem HNA.And guess what? This incident will not hurt Honda's sales or reputation at all.
That notion is exactly what put GM where they are today. After decades of building sub-par cars and failing to police their dealer network, they're losing sales to everyone else. You're right that Honda can get away with this shit if they want to, but it's going to cost them, little by little, until it's too late.Big car companies like Honda has enough customers to be this rude. Sad to say, but they can whatever they want and customers can't really do shit against them.
The only reason to consider it a TMU is ignorance. The car's mileage was noted in accordance to law with the sticker. If the sticker is not there or unreadable, then you might have a TMU issue, but in this case it's not.
The truth is, anyone claiming this particular car is TMU is committing fraud. Full stop.
Steve
Exactly what I was going to say.That notion is exactly what put GM where they are today. After decades of building sub-par cars and failing to police their dealer network, they're losing sales to everyone else. You're right that Honda can get away with this shit if they want to, but it's going to cost them, little by little, until it's too late.
Look at GM now; they're making great products now but no one will take a second look at them. My dad refuses to buy a new GM vehicle because of the hell he went through 20 years ago with an Olds Cutlass and the pathetic TH200s. These kinds of experiences stick with people for a lifetime and that is not something a car company needs hanging over their heads.
There is an odometer discrepancy, so it is a TMU car. I don't see how it could be any simpler.But they are treating the car as a TMU car, when it is not a TMU car within the law.
California DMV said:Repair of Odometer: Required Information
28053. (a) Nothing in this article prevents the service, repair, or replacement of an odometer, if the mileage indicated thereon remains the same as before the service, repair, or replacement. If the odometer is incapable of registering the same mileage as before the service, repair, or replacement, the odometer shall be adjusted to read zero and a notice in writing shall be attached to the left doorframe of the vehicle by the person performing the service, repair, or replacement specifying the mileage prior to the service, repair or replacement of the odometer and the date on which it was serviced, repaired, or replaced.
I guess the question is, was the car driven with the odometer broken?