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It's a bit silly. I've always used both. Redundancy is a good thing, but I never thought of leaving it in gear as the primary means for keeping the car in place. This also extends to automatics. It's not like they're charging you per pull/button push.
 

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Both the handbrake AND the gear.

In my mind, for some reason, the handbrake is actually used to stop the car, while the gear is used to stop the car more if the handbrake is weak (which can happen with older cars).

For extreme slopes (very rare), handbrake, the relevant gear that would make the car move uphill, the steering locked towards the curb or hedge.
 

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Fascinating. Why are manual drivers afraid to use the parking brake? I don't understand the idea of putting it in gear instead.
My parking brake doesnt hold any more, I have to put it in gear and apply the brake. On steep hills, I will shift to 4Low so it doesn't roll away.
 

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Both the handbrake AND the gear.

In my mind, for some reason, the handbrake is actually used to stop the car, while the gear is used to stop the car more if the handbrake is weak (which can happen with older cars).

For extreme slopes (very rare), handbrake, the relevant gear that would make the car move uphill, the steering locked towards the curb or hedge.
I very rarely use the handbrake unless I'm parked on a slope. When I park I leave the car in the next gear I am likely to use to get it out of the space. Living so close to the coast here everything is pretty flat, and if I park on a slope I make sure the wheels are pointing such that the car will roll into and be stopped by the kerb should anything else go wrong.
 

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I very rarely use the handbrake unless I'm parked on a slope. When I park I leave the car in the next gear I am likely to use to get it out of the space. Living so close to the coast here everything is pretty flat, and if I park on a slope I make sure the wheels are pointing such that the car will roll into and be stopped by the kerb should anything else go wrong.
I admire your trust in your car. Many roads around here seem flat but they are actually not, for a long bit, and you only notice when you notice the car won't stand still without braking; I would live in constant fear of my car trying to get somewhere else without notifying me first...
 

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Fascinating. Why are manual drivers afraid to use the parking brake? I don't understand the idea of putting it in gear instead.
1. If it freezes, the parking brake cable might freezes in the cable guide, making it impossible to disengage the parking break
2. The parking at my work, is on a (slight) slope. It happens often people arrive and put the car on parking break...discs cool down, losing width, making the parking break useless, and the car starts rolling an hour after they arrived. (They even closed some parking spots because parked cars kept rolling into them)
 

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I admire your trust in your car. Many roads around here seem flat but they are actually not, for a long bit, and you only notice when you notice the car won't stand still without braking; I would live in constant fear of my car trying to get somewhere else without notifying me first...
Maintenance helps. Plus pointing the front wheels in the correct direction, towards the kerb when pointing downhill, away from the kerb for uphill, should be standard practice for any half decent driver.

1. If it freezes, the parking brake cable might freezes in the cable guide, making it impossible to disengage the parking break
2. The parking at my work, is on a (slight) slope. It happens often people arrive and put the car on parking break...discs cool down, losing width, making the parking break useless, and the car starts rolling an hour after they arrived. (They even closed some parking spots because parked cars kept rolling into them)
Or if you have a second car that only sees occasional use, as with the MX5 which saw little use 2 weeks out of every 4 when HWF3.0 and I shared a commute, there is a tendency for the parking brake to jam on.
 
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