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Interesting topic on FG's attempt at 200MPH

I'm not even that interested in it + I don't think that Lotus can do it :bangin:
 
I just want to see what their excuse is when they either go over budget, don't hit 200, or both...
 
^ agreed - if they have the budget they can get the hp and transmission they need to hit it, but methinks it all became a lot harder than they thought it would be
 
although, what's keeping them from secretly breaking the budget?
 
What was their budget for the project?

I take it that is why they had those car giveaways EVERY week, so they could generate some extra cash for the series.

To be honest I forgot all about this challange until I happened upon the episode flicking through cable channels at 1:30AM the other day.

I wonder if it will actually go somewhere...or just be forgotten about.
 
A Skyline or Supra would've been a logically choice for this. They are made for wangan runs, and their engines are insanely overbuilt. If they want a British car, why not pick something lighter, like a Elise or even an Ariel Atom, I think with some aero mods, the Atom could hit 200mph with about 400hp.
 
awdrifter said:
I think with some aero mods, the Atom could hit 200mph with about 400hp.
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Actually, I think a fist would physically burst from the engine and kill the driver to death.

An atom at 200? :shock:

Seriously though, get a car that doesn't promise to break all the time. They could have bought a used vette and done it up.
 
yeah... but a lotus is just wayyy cooler. 8) 8)
 
astroboymoto said:
as much as I like lotus, poor choice of car for the task :thumbsdown:

hmmm, probably stupid, but why not a Caterham 21 with rb26dett powah? :lol:
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Never knew about the 21. Thanks. ;)
 
FATMOUSE said:
awdrifter said:
I think with some aero mods, the Atom could hit 200mph with about 400hp.
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Actually, I think a fist would physically burst from the engine and kill the driver to death.

An atom at 200? :shock:

Seriously though, get a car that doesn't promise to break all the time. They could have bought a used vette and done it up.
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Well, if there are people that ride there motorcyce at over 200mph on the street, I'm sure they can find someone that's willing to do it in an Atom.
 
awdrifter said:
A Skyline or Supra would've been a logically choice for this. They are made for wangan runs, and their engines are insanely overbuilt. If they want a British car, why not pick something lighter, like a Elise or even an Ariel Atom, I think with some aero mods, the Atom could hit 200mph with about 400hp.
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Weight has little to do with top speed, might help in getting there before the road runs out I guess.

The Esprit isn't heavy at about 1250kg. I's not an Elise but it isn't heavy either. It also has good aerodynamics already and I think it would be easier to get the hp from a 3.5 V8 twin turbo than a lot of other engines. I know the Skyline and Supra can get big power but the Esprit has a 900cc and 500cc and about 50hp advantage over those in standard form which has to help with getting bigger power more easily. It might not be able to make the 600hp+ that the other two can make but they are only looking for about 450hp and with the Esrpits better aerodynamics they need less then they would with other cars. FG already have 430hp or something with just a chip and slightly modified turbo. I don't think the Skyline or Supra could do much or any better with just those mods. The Esprit also already has a top speed of about 180mph which means it is already close to 200mph and the gearing will probably stretch that far without having to look at new gearbox or diff ratios.

Except for the gearbox I think this car was a decent choice.

Aston
 
You guys are forgetting the most important aspect in getting a high top speed--aerodynamics. No matter how much power you have, you cannot achieve 200mph if the car is not aerodynamically sound to do so.

Caterham or Atom at 200mph? Getting to 160mph is relatively easy. Getting that extra 10mph after that is a huge task.

The factor of drag is a coefficient. It is the single most important factor in top speed.

The weakness of the Esprit is its drivetrain. There's a reason why their V8 twin turbo only made 355hp.
 
I would think power to weight is more important at getting speed. An Atom at 400hp probably has the power to weight ratio of a 1000hp Supra, with the right gearing, a 1000hp Supra can easily hit 200mph.
 
awdrifter said:
I would think power to weight is more important at getting speed. An Atom at 400hp probably has the power to weight ratio of a 1000hp Supra, with the right gearing, a 1000hp Supra can easily hit 200mph.
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Like I said before weight has little to do with top speed, it is mostly about aerodynamics and power. A good power to weight ratio will help acceleration but not have much or any affect on top speed.

A 1000hp Supra might get to 200mph but that is because of the 1000hp and the Supra's aerodynamics (which are probably better than an Atom) and nothing to do with how much the Supra weighs.

If an Atom really could get to 200mph with 400hp then the Esprit will too because I am fairly sure that the Esprit has better aerodynamics.

The other thing is that an Ariel Atom costs a lot more than a second hand Esprit.

Aston
 
A motorcycle doesn't have that good of aerodynamics, but they (some of them) can hit 200mph. So why not an Atom? It's basically a 4 wheel motorcycle. On Ariel's site there are some aero upgrades you can do to the Atom, so those would help on the top end. And there are used Atom too, I bet it would be cheaper than a used Esprit.
 
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