Jalopnik has gone down the toilet ver. 3.0
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No one said they're twisting facts. However, I do believe they have an inherent bias against certain brands and cars, Alfa being one of them. For example Tesla's Autopilot has actually killed people due to its software bugs the press has been pretty blas? about it. Meanwhile when the Giulia has software bugs that are merely an inconvenience, there is such an overreaction that you would think the car killed the author's first born child.
I'd probably call it a mix of customer error and company strategy error/misinformation. When you call something "Autopilot" you give the general customer the idea that the car can drive itself - regardless of how many warnings you flash on the screens and how many press releases you issue, afterall, your average consumer is pretty dumb. I don't think they should've ever named the feature that. That and initially the system didn't disable if you ignored its prompts to put your hands back on the steering wheel.
Like you said, I wouldn't call that a bug, but bad feature design.
Like you said, I wouldn't call that a bug, but bad feature design.
Point taken, the name is quite misleading.
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It's just adaptive cruise control with lane follow, whether it sux of or not is irrelevant it's not something one ever needs to use. Mind you I generally dislike Tesla and how it's being treated in the media I just don't think autopilot issues are something that can realistically be used as a con.
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It's just adaptive cruise control with lane follow, whether it sux of or not is irrelevant it's not something one ever needs to use. Mind you I generally dislike Tesla and how it's being treated in the media I just don't think autopilot issues are something that can realistically be used as a con.
As someone who has dealt with automotive embedded software and now deals with aerospace software development, yes, I very well understand that. Hence, why I excuse these electronics bugs on the Giulia and don't chop it up to some gross negligence on the part of Alfa Romeo and subscribe to the "lol Italians" stereotype. It took all of two minutes to research that the issues plaguing these press cars have to do with software and that there already exists a SW fix to remedy the issue, why is it necessary to write such a scathing review for something that is fairly trivial?
I wish every automotive journalist could go through an automotive industry bootcamp before writing the click-bait drivel they like to regurgitate on to their keyboards.
I wish every automotive journalist could go through an automotive industry bootcamp before writing the click-bait drivel they like to regurgitate on to their keyboards.
Have there been any reports of customer cars being affected by these problems? One has to assume that if press cars are still being affected by major issues, then there will be a subset of customers that will see the same problems if their cars were shipped from the plant without the software updates (dealers are notoriously bad at updating cars once they arrive on the lot). The real telling story will be the Consumer Reports review of the Giulia as they buy a random car off the lot rather than use a press car so theres no way the manufacturer can prep the vehicle.
I second the auto industry bootcamp for auto journos (I've been saying that for years), but in this case, I don't think this is the worst thing Jalopnik has done/published. Granted, I haven't actually read the articles so I don't know what wording was used and what assumptions were made, but since whatever outlet got a car that failed this late in the game, its fair to call it unreliable.
I second the auto industry bootcamp for auto journos (I've been saying that for years), but in this case, I don't think this is the worst thing Jalopnik has done/published. Granted, I haven't actually read the articles so I don't know what wording was used and what assumptions were made, but since whatever outlet got a car that failed this late in the game, its fair to call it unreliable.
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It would have to be crazy intense. I've been in the auto industry for 5 years and I'm still learning new stuff on a weekly, if not daily basis. Plenty of topics that I wouldn't feel comfortable writing about with the concrete certainty a lot of these guys do, and yet I feel like I'm still more qualified than they are. And it would need to cover everything from planning to engineering to testing to marketing as there are some journos out there that used to be in the auto industry and still get stuff wrong. Obviously no one can be perfect and know everything, but even a small base layer is better than nothing.
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And on that note.... Lexus Won't Call Its Driver Assistance Systems Self-Driving Technology
Here's another shit article claiming that the Bolt isn't selling without even mentioning the fact that it isn't even available in all 50 states yet...
Chevrolet's Tesla Killer isn't selling very quickly.
Click-bait at its finest.
Chevrolet's Tesla Killer isn't selling very quickly.
Click-bait at its finest.
Here we are again, another "fuck Alfa Romeo" article about its list of TSBs and teething issues.
Here are all the problems that FCA has attempted to fix on the Alfa Romeo Giulia
Mind you that most of these TSBs are either software fixes or manual labor fixes that require less than a half-hour's worth of time. Judging by the commenters that doesn't matter, "Alfa Romeos are pieces of shit!!!!!!1111ONEONEONE11!!! AND I'M NEVER BUYING ONE!!!"
I hope all new product launches get this much attention in the future, but sadly I doubt it.
Here are all the problems that FCA has attempted to fix on the Alfa Romeo Giulia
Mind you that most of these TSBs are either software fixes or manual labor fixes that require less than a half-hour's worth of time. Judging by the commenters that doesn't matter, "Alfa Romeos are pieces of shit!!!!!!1111ONEONEONE11!!! AND I'M NEVER BUYING ONE!!!"
I hope all new product launches get this much attention in the future, but sadly I doubt it.
