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Look ma! No Parachute!

Here's a depressing thought. By the time we develop proper flying cars or jet packs (as common as cars etc are now)....I'd probably be way too old to enjoy them.
 
^What? :huh:

So I'm 21, which means, current statistics say I'll live to be 120? That doesn't sound right :p
 
zenkidori said:
The projected average life span of 20 year olds is now 120, so maybe not.
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Hmmm....first I've heard of that. Very interesting.
 
jensked said:
mmm you really have to have a complete confidence in your own invention to test that :)
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and have the mind of a crazy person... :lol:
 
jensked said:
mmm you really have to have a complete confidence in your own invention to test that :)
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you can test it with a parachute on your back ;)

if it doesn't work, just deploy the chute
 
bone said:
jensked said:
mmm you really have to have a complete confidence in your own invention to test that :)
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you can test it with a parachute on your back ;)

if it doesn't work, just deploy the chute
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Not his invention. Patrick DeGayardon invented the modern wingsuit has we know it today. Jari Kuosma is the owner and developper of the Bird-Man wingsuit like the one Jeb Corliss is using now.

If it doesn't work, you crash. There is a point of no return in a landing, be it with a parachute, a wingsuit, even a plane or a sailplane. The flare is the moment when a pilot modifies his angle of approach (the nose of the aircraft pointing...) from a certain angle going mostly forward and down somewhat, to pulling up to slow down the rate of descent and get more lift to put down with near zero vertical speed. Any parachute, even the fastest opening BASE rigs, need a couple of hundred feet to inflate and fly properly. By that time, a wingsuit flyer attempting to land is too low to change his mind and open the canopy rather than landing his wingsuit, he is committed to his attempt, the point of no return is past.

Although wingsuit flyers like Jeb Corliss and Lo?c Jean-Albert have demonstrated that a wingsuit flyer can flare his body to reach zero vertical speed, and in some cases actual lift (going up for a few seconds !), the problem with landing a wingsuit his the horizontal speed at the moment of the flare that is pretty high and the position of the flyer who is laying chest first on air at that moment. How to "skid in" seems to be the challenge right now. Speculations at the moment are that he will try to put down on a ski slope. Snow would provide glide and the angle of the slope would give a margin of error in the amount of flare needed to land without breaking bones or getting hurt by the impact if he were to misjudge his approach.

If he attempts it, he will be a legend. If he survives, an instant hero. If he doesn't, he will join Patrick DeGayardon where one can fly without needing to ever think about landing.

This is all experimental and will remain that way for a while.

I'll leave you on this, this is the warning label sewn on my Bird-Man wingsuit.


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I intend to follow the highlighted part. ;)
 
Ahh, nice input Roman, I knew you'd take the bait, erm, let us know what you thought! ;) :p
 
jayjaya29 said:
zenkidori said:
The projected average life span of 20 year olds is now 120, so maybe not.
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No, thats a bit over the top, its about 85-100.
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Well that's what i've been reading. I do believe this is assuming a linear curve of medical advancement, we could stagnate and stay the same.
 
zenkidori said:
jayjaya29 said:
zenkidori said:
The projected average life span of 20 year olds is now 120, so maybe not.
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No, thats a bit over the top, its about 85-100.
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Well that's what i've been reading. I do believe this is assuming a linear curve of medical advancement, we could stagnate and stay the same.
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Hmm well, you could be right, but with the current estimated expected lifespan is about 70, adding an additional 50 years onto the expected lifespan seems a bit much.
 
Cruzz563 said:
Ahh, nice input Roman, I knew you'd take the bait, erm, let us know what you thought! ;) :p
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You're welcome. ;)


Wingsuit dives today, 2 jumps, from 13,500ft.
  • 1st jump: kept up with the plane diving down for the next load for about 30 sec.
    Was sitting under canopy at 3,400ft and did 98 seconds of freefall.
  • 2nd jump: Lost the plane faster 'cause the pilot lost sight of me flying next to him but flew longer and opened a little lower. Sitting under canopy at 2,700ft this time and ended up breaking the preset goal of 100 seconds of freefall and got 105 seconds this time. :woot:
 
Niiice :thumbsup:
 
A bit offtopic, but... arrgh, I'm so mad at weather now. I was going to do my 1st jump (static line) today, and apparently I'm not going to. So it's another week of waiting. I could have jumped yesterday, but some rules require 4 days of studying. So even though I made all tests yesterday, I must jump at least on 4th day.

And now this thread about parachutes not making it any easier :cry:
 
Don't worry about the OT, I'm cool that way :p

That sucks about the weather :| Hope you get to go soon, don't forgot to post snapshots :thumbup:
 
MXM said:
I could have jumped yesterday, but some rules require 4 days of studying. So even though I made all tests yesterday, I must jump at least on 4th day.
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What the **** is that rule for ? ! :blink:
Canada and the CSPA are so relaked that way: learn and jump the same day.
That's right. Show up at eight in the morning, spend the morning learning all you really need to know, pass the exam after lunch and jump in the afternoon.

Sorry to hear it MXM. :( You'll appreciate it more when you finally do jump I guess. :)

Are they using 182 Cessna's over there too ? How do they make you exit: leap out the door (dynamic exit) or hang from the strut underneath the wing facing forward before letting go looking up at the plane (the one we do here) ? :think:
 
Dunno where 4 days come from. I think it's Finnish "ilmailuliitto" which regulates all the air-related sports. And yeah, I think it's really an overkill. We had like 4 hours of lectures, and couple of hours of practicing jumping out, using reserve parachute and landing, and rest of the time just wondered around and watched other people jumping. It's also happening only at weekends, so it takes 2 of them at least (well, 3 in my case).

I'm not very good at planes, but it says on the club's page that it's "Cessna 207 Soloy Turbine". You have to push yourself from sitting position out of the side-door and try to fall facing forward.
 
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