To each his own but I live in a city and both of my cars are manual and I wouldn't even consider an automatic (unless it's a truck or SUV).If you drive in a city, an automatic is the only way to go.
Electric car, or Koeneggseg Regera?
Or maybe CVT?
Yes yes yes. Finally someone that agrees.On a side note, I don't acknowledge "semi-automatic" as a real thing. They're all just automatics to me. Which is not a bad thing, just embrace it already people.
Yes yes yes. Finally someone that agrees.
I've seen so many discussions of this type where someone chimes in to say "I've got a Golf with an DSG gearbox, but it's really a true manual, because..." ... no, it's not. You put it in D and go. It shifts automatically. That makes it an automatic. Just like a Pontiac from 1979 with three on the tree.
The fact that it has a robotic clutch instead of a torque converter doesn't change anything. It's an automatic.
We're not calling DSGs and Steptronics "manuals." We're calling them "semi automatic" in that part of the time, they are automatic (put it in D and it shifts for you) and part of the time you can select the gear you want and it stays there, like a manual, making the trans "semi automatic." While you don't have to push a third pedal, you do get to have a manual choice mode.
Personally, I consider a "semi-automatic" when it has a manual transmission with an automatic clutch, like the PDK, DCT, etc.
If it has a torque converter, it's an automatic.
But that's me. :lol:
I'd say semi automatic is any automatic, be it clutched auto or torque converter auto, with a full manual mode, where you're still choosing the gear and it hold in that gear when selected. The Steptronic in my E38 is the latter. When you go to the manual mode, it only goes into whatever gear you've selected and it holds it there whether you come to an idle or go WOT. The only difference is you're not pushing a clutch pedal, but youre still manully selecting the gears.
Well, yeah... Sometimes I want to manually tell the computer in the gearbox what to do. I may not be driving a manual, but I'm brilliant at managing what the computer needs to do.
Just keep in mind, the computer can override you at any time. It has ultimate authority, so you better ask nicely for what gear you want, or you might offend it.
To each his own but I live in a city and both of my cars are manual and I wouldn't even consider an automatic (unless it's a truck or SUV).
We're not calling DSGs and Steptronics "manuals." We're calling them "semi automatic" in that part of the time, they are automatic (put it in D and it shifts for you) and part of the time you can select the gear you want and it stays there, like a manual, making the trans "semi automatic." While you don't have to push a third pedal, you do get to have a manual choice mode.
Yep 100%, my old Buick had a 4 speed auto with L23D, with L really being 1 so I could "shift" it like a manual and it would even stay in that "gear" came in useful for engine braking on snow.Yup, that's what they say alright. I still don't buy it though. It smells like marketing bs.
They've been selling aftermarket shifters for automatic transmissions for a long time that allow you to manually select and hold gears, but that doesn't change what the transmission is. It's still an automatic, but with a different shifter.
In the end "Manual" and "Automatic" are both very literal names with a very literal meaning. Literally.
It's just funny that people think the small amount of manual effort they put into changing gears means they're not driving an automatic. I mean, even normal old torque converter automatics require the driver to manually shift into D, or R, or L or whatever.
Yes yes yes. Finally someone that agrees.
I've seen so many discussions of this type where someone chimes in to say "I've got a Golf with an DSG gearbox, but it's really a true manual, because..." ... no, it's not. You put it in D and go. It shifts automatically. That makes it an automatic. Just like a Pontiac from 1979 with three on the tree.
The fact that it has a robotic clutch instead of a torque converter doesn't change anything. It's an automatic.
Yes, it's called the kickdown switch and all automatic cars since the beginning of time have them. Mashing the kickdown switch in my V70 didn't do shit if the transmission was in manual, though. Scary stuff.My Passat will do the same thing as your Skoda. There is a button at the end of the pedal travel that automatically changes to the lowest possible gear, regardless of mode.
Personally, I consider a "semi-automatic" when it has a manual transmission with an automatic clutch, like the PDK, DCT, etc.
If it has a torque converter, it's an automatic.
But that's me. :lol:
I still fail to understand how you can consider my car a "semi-automatic" when I can put it in D and go, like any automatic-equipped car made within the last half century or so. It dosn't matter if it has clutches, a torque converter or unicorns inside to do the power delivery.
See I go by gun terms, a full auto can still shoot single shot but a semi-auto can never shoot more than one shot. Same for transmission, if it can ever shift gears all on its own it's an auto.Well, that would be the automatic part of "semi" "automatic". Semi automatic does not mean that it's never automatic. It means that sometimes it's more than just "automatic."
No it's never a full manual, but it's no longer acting automatically, either.
It's still not a semi-automatic, it's an automatic with ability to select a gear manually. A semi-automatic would be something like the weird Saab with no clutch or a dragster with a ratchet shift aka it needs you to do the shifting just no the clutching.