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Mini Mac

Mini Mac

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jasonchiu

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are u guys interested in it? i am but still it costs alot and no way a alturnative to PC man. if they were to make it a aturnative it has to be alot less. its like 3900 in HK, they have to get it to bout like 3500 to get ppl to buy it without thinking.

but its a nice lookin thing, might get it if i get some spare $$$$$
 
I might seriously get it... I need a new one cuz my current one is used to folding@home and hosting my own ftp server... might just try out this mac
 
Haha, hell no. I could buy a Dell for a hella of a lot less, and with a monitor too.

Not to mention that I'll never spend a cent on a Mac.
 
I could buy it if I thought it was important to place you computer in you dinner room, so it can show of to your guests.

So the answer is: NO. Never. I mean, whats so wrong about a Shuttle or Laptop? This expencive tiny mac is for showing of IMO. Some people may want that from a Computer, but I dont. U can always hide the tower or pimp it up like Viper has! ;)
 
NO!

It's still a Mac, I hate them, they do nothing better than PC's and it's not good for gaming, it looks like a fashion accessory and I hate Macs.


Did I say I really don't like Macs? ;)
 
I always thought Mac's were really cool, especially the latest G5. They're just too damn expensive. Their operating system isn't exactly standard either.

I like my traditional PC's a lot better than a Mac, everything just works and compatibility is less of an issue.
 
Sorry for the lengthy tirade, here it goes:

eh, you all hate macs for the wrong reasons, (well just hating macs because its a mac is a bit childish anyway). I should know, I used to hate them. But when I had a chance to sit down and use one running OS X (OS 9 == the anti-christ), I changed my mind. They do fill a niche, that niche is NOT THE GAMER! I hate when people say they hate macs because they can't play games. Apple doesn't build machines to play games. They build machines to be productive, and to make daily tasks (web, e-mail, music and photos) much less complicated. iTunes, iDVD and iPhoto are applications that my mom can use, I can't say the same about much software on the PC.

OS X has removed a lot of the stuff that used to make Macintosh machines, "only for n00bs". OS X can be as complicated as you want (it can be run as a terminal only) or as simple as you want. Macintosh machines are some of the better machines for development and scientific research, as UNIX is infinitely powerful (Insert the fight from the microsoft fans here). Being originally a UNIX developer, and now working on more and more software for the mac, I have a bit of a different view on them as the people who just want to play games. There is a reason that the Number 1 academic supercomputer in the world is not a PC system, its composed of Macintosh G5s.

Also, macs do a lot of things better than PCs, like not get spyware, or viruses (which i must say is a very nice bonus in addition to a stable development machine). Another thing is that the gap between Windows and Mac is closing more and more. OS X provides plenty of features to allow a Mac to peacefully exist in a primarily windows environment (as in file formats, server connections and integration in to windows domains).

My experience with Dell has also taught me, you get what you pay for. I do not enjoy having to replace hard drives every couple of weeks because Dell chooses drives from the Maxtor (I mean Crashtor) reject bin to send as replacement parts. This wasn't with just one machine, it was with a lab of 30. 30 machines all had hard drives that died within a week of each other, not once but 3 times within a single year. And those machines were supposed to be the better ones designed for business settings (optiplex), I can only imagine the hell home users must be having. I have had one problem with my Powerbook G4, a hard drive that failed because of "rough" treatment, and I had the machine repaired in less than 2 days. The Dell parts were self installed and took over a week to reach my location. Sure you can buy a whole Dell machine cheaper than a Mac, but you end up spending more time and effort to keep it working than a Mac. It is not unheard of (I have a friend who still uses an 8 year old PowerMac G4 Tower) to use a Mac for a very long time. PC users can not get that kind of mileage out of their machines, especially those $350 crap specials that Dell keeps pushing. If you have to suggest a PC for someone, please suggest anyone but HP and Dell, they are 2/3 of the trifecta of horrible computer manufacturers. (Compaq used to be the third, but they have been eaten by HP :-().

I don't care if you dislike macs, but just because the PC is the dominant equipment in the market, doesn't necessarily mean its the best. And add to this battle my powerbook has been up continuously for 30 days, as I have not had to reboot to install software, or reboot because it locked up, which is a major feat for most windows machines. (granted my two windows machines have been up 25 days because all they have been doing is folding :-D).

Enough for now. I will probably come up with some more later, but now I have to get to writing some fortran :thumbsdown:
 
I have an iMac, iBook & Power Mac and see the Mac mini as a computer for someone who wanted to try out Macs without abandoning most of his peripherals. I wouldnt get one though unless they've found a way to mount it inside a car's stereo head compartment. It would make the the ultimate ICE. :D I never had hardware problems with any of my Macs & only needed to open the computer to to upgrade RAM or HDDs. Yes, Macs use PC RAM & HDDs.

No where can you find a PC that has as much computational power per inch than a Mac mini. You can't also find a computer as quiet as a Mac mini. Someone tried fitting PC parts into a Mac mini & failed. The PC parts used were too big fit into the case & also slower than the Mac parts.

Also the $350 Dell's Saturday Special probably doesnt have a similar spec to a Mac Mini. A lot of people over here compare the Mac Mini w/ the crappiest clones that you can have assembled w/o considering software costs.

You folks completely miss the point of the Mac mini & Macs. Most of the comments posted are suspect to those who havent used modern Macs long enough to make an informed opinion. I used to be like that but after a week of using it at work I really got why a lot of people are willing to pay more for computer. I have a couple of XP Pro machines here and I use em just for games & non-critical stuff.

Macs are like BMWs they may be pricier than a Toyota, Nissan or Honda but it is the ultimate driving machine. ;)
 
Renesis said:
NO!

It's still a Mac, I hate them, they do nothing better than PC's and it's not good for gaming, it looks like a fashion accessory and I hate Macs.


Did I say I really don't like Macs? ;)

NO and exactly what he said...Mac are over-rated...just like X-box
 
You guys are all so young and naive. :roll: Listen to Hokiethang, he knows what he is talking about. The main reason you get a Mac is to get OSX. It is unarguably better than Windows.

I am quite sure I am going to get a Mini Mac eventually. I've used quite a few eMacs with nearly identical specs and would want to use a Mini Mac atleast once or twice to make sure the small changes\miniaturization didn't effect the performance, but I've been looking for the cheapest possible way to get an OSX box, and this is definitely it. I'll probably get a Dual G5 based system whenever I can afford it as well.
 
yea... I've used a couple of powerbooks before and I love the OS because of its simplicity... and the Mini mac is a great opportunity for me to try out macs without actually breaking my wallet... as zenon said... I don't get why ppl hate macs, its not like its an unreliable machine or anything.. you guys just don't like it because it doesn't dominate the market and your too scared to switch thinking that you would loose all the compability (sp?) that you have with PC... my suggestion is buy the mini mac and see how you like it... thats what I'm doing... after that... then post your comments and why you dislike mac
 
Getting back to what Hokiethang said, I also hated Macs until I started to use them. At my university, the library has about 50% Macs and 50% PCs. I used to just automatically go to the PCs of course, but when the school started to get OSX based Macs I got a bit curious. I started to use the eMacs whenever I had some spare time to get what I needed to get done. After a while I started to get pretty adept in OSX. Now whenever I go to the library I always go straight to the row of eMacs.

I'm still no where near as efficient with a Mac as I am with a PC, but I've been using OSX occasionally for about a year and have used Windows based systems regularily for nearly 12 years now.

I will say though that the one and only thing that I still can not stand about Macs is the OEM single button mouse. All the computers at the school have them and they drive me absolutely nuts. Just another reason to buy an eMac - it doesn't come with the awful mouse. :D
 
i think that one of the reasons why mac tend to be faster and dont crash is that there is less crap to put on it than pc's.

it quite amazing how that the mini mac is really small.

btw u cna get a computer in ur car, i tihnk its by comon

how fast is 1.42 mac speed to intel speed
 
jason by your meaning of not having crap that Macs generally dont have MS Windows then you're correct. The OS (Mac OS X) that comes on all modern Macs maximizes the specs of your computer. Windows doesnt do 3D accelerated GUI (Longhorn has this) & doesnt get faster after each update. For the past 5 years each Mac OS X update speeds up all old Macs.

What I mean by putting a computer in a car was putting the whole CPU into the in-dash stereo slot. I've seen some attempts at this and they're so big or freaking noisy!!

As zenon mentioned the one button mouse does suck. Sure its designed for people who want to take simplicity to the extreme but with the Mac mini it doesnt come with one. I've chucked mine and replaced it with a red Logitech MX510. Right clicking works on the get go and I just have to assign commands to the other buttons.

Be warned though if you're a gamer you're better off sticking with your Windows PC or just buy a console.

Microsoft's processor of choice for its Xbox 2/Xbox Next console will be based on the IBM PowerPC G5 processor the very same processor that powers the Power Mac G5 & iMac G5. The development platform for the next Xbox are top end Power Mac G5s with a PPC version of Windows XP.

If you want to learn more about the Mac mini from those who're using it on a regular basis or own one then sign up at http://byodkm.net/

I think the 1.42GHz Mac Mini is equivalent to a 1.5-7GHz Intel Centrino chip. From what I've read online Centrinos are faster on a clock per clock basis than Pentium 4s.
 
Hmm, never a MAC? Wouldn't say that... I'd be interested...

But in Germany its close to 500 Euros and you don't get the Apple looks for it. Yeah, the mac itself, but the keyboard and mouse? TFT? Gotta pay extra. I would love to have a MAC as a stylish surfing, mailing and office machine... But for now my PC can do that as well...

Buba
 
i guess mac needs to make more products u know for its pcs, i see it gaining more market share in like 5-10 years time. they really need to sell parts so there are people that can make people custom macs at a competitive price.

i was in a training today and i heard one of the guy say" i can run this windwos program but then i need to make my mac in to a pc and its going to bereally slow"

it was some graph program.

so is this possible? run something and ur mac in to a pc but its jsut slow as fuck?
if so why cant u turn a pc in to a mac?
 
yea... there is a program called Virtual PC which allows you to run PC softwares on a mac: but at a fraction of the mac:'s processing speed.
and Macs would never be custom because all their Hardware is developed by them to ensure 100% compatibility... unless they change it in the future which is see is highly unlikely
 
andyhui01 said:
yea... there is a program called Virtual PC which allows you to run PC softwares on a mac: but at a fraction of the mac:'s processing speed.
and Macs would never be custom because all their Hardware is developed by them to ensure 100% compatibility... unless they change it in the future which is see is highly unlikely

Virtual PC isn't as bad as it used to be (it runs about the equivalent of a half speed PC, 1.0GHz G4 to a 500 MHz PC). It is highly unlikely that Apple will let you build a custom mac (even though it is possible if you know the right people), because the moment you let third parties create hardware for a system, there are going to be incompatibilities. Apple controls the hardware and the software, so the two work in perfect harmony with one another. I would rather have a stable machine, than a machine I can build myself.
 
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