My 1965 Ford Anglia 105e

[a.clout]

Finally I am the owner of a 1965 Ford Anglia 105e and a tidy one too!

I had had my eye on another 105e, however when it came to have the car inspected - it failed, and miserably. Rust and leaks everywhere.
So it was onwards and upwards and I returned to searching for another tidy Anglia.

I found this particular 105e on a local advertising website and it almost seemed too good to be true - a one owner from new (48 years) , garage stored, 75000 original miles example!! After a month of negotiating and organising a time to collect the car (9 hour drive away) we were on a plane up the North Island of New Zealand to collect the car.

Prior to seeing the car for the first time I had only seen photos online so I was unsure of what to expect - the car however turned out to be better than pictures could ever have depicted!

The owner's daughter (the car had been in her garage), told us the history of the car - it was assembled in NZ in 1965 and purchased by this particular couple. The car was used daily for about 20 years until being replaced with a more modern car in the 1980's. At that point the car has spent the next 25 years (or so) in a garage with very little use. The car had been treated to a respray in the original colour in this time too. The car was completely original and was being sold with all original brochures, servicing documents - everything!!
To top it off, the car had only travelled 75000 miles since new.

Because the car had had so little use in so long (60 miles in the last 3 years!!!) we were anxious for the long 9 hour drive ahead. The car however, didnt miss a beat and ran like a legend! It astounded me how much of a head turner the car is too - admired by so many passers by and we were never short of a wave or a smile.

Trip home.

So now I have the car back in its birth city (the Anglia was manufactured at the Ford plant about 20 minutes from where I live) I plan to slowly tidy the car up whilst maintaining its originality.

I will upload a proof of ownership photo when I get a chance!

 

[a.clout]

Bought a few cleaning products and parts this week.

Semi-sealed heamdlamps to replace the factory sealed-beam units. This should improve lowlight driving substantially!!

New Radiator Hoses and Oil (filter to follow).

The car won't know itself once Ive given it a good cut and polish followed by a wax (Meguiars for the win!!)

 

[Andeh]

Looks really nice, and in pretty excellent condition. You're off to a good start as well, if you're changing the radiator hoses I would recommend changing the heater hoses as well. However, looking at the dash, you don't have any heater controls? Am I right in thinking this car only has a cold air intake as opposed to a heater? Like so:

Obviously all other rubber components should be checked as well, but I'm sure you're aware. While you're servicing the other components, do make sure to remember to grease all of the grease nipples.

It's also worth changing the gearbox oil, steering box oil and diff. Depending on whether you have a sealed differential or not, changing the oil on that could be difficult, I had to use a ramshackle siphon system the first time.

Just a note - I see you have leather cleaner, the Anglia should have no leather at all, just vinyl. So I'd check that it's appropriate for the material. (I do see cloth seat covers in your picture though?)

Most importantly, enjoy the car! And keep us updated please.

 

[thomas]

Oh well, you started creating threads for the cars . Too bad you didn't start with an actual car .

Granted, this thing looks like new .

 

[Heathrow]

Wow, that looks great in the sunshine. It looks like new!

Did Andeh check the colour code yet? Because that looks the same colour to me.

I wonder how far apart their manufacture was? Did Ford make 100 green ones, then blue ones etc. :lol:

I will upload a proof of ownership photo when I get a chance!

Here on FG we have a lots of members who have really cool cars:
Top 25 Members' Cars of 2012 in FinalGear

But there has been in the past a lot of idiots signing up and claiming that they have a Ferrari or Lambo or whatever, then posting a picture from the net.

 

[CAPT_Howdy]

Looks like Spruce Green to me, too.

Ford only had three green colours available for the '65 Anglia: Alpina Green, Goodwood Green & Spruce Green. And Alpina and Goodwood are much darker.

It would be funny, though - having 2 Spruce Green 1965 Ford Anglia 105e Deluxe cars on this forum. There are only 33 '65 Anglias left in the UK.

 

[Andeh]

Looks like Spruce Green to me, too.

Ford only had three green colours available for the '65 Anglia: Alpina Green, Goodwood Green & Spruce Green. And Alpina and Goodwood are much darker.

It would be funny, though - having 2 Spruce Green 1965 Ford Anglia 105e Deluxe cars on this forum. There are only 33 '65 Anglias left in the UK.

The more I see it, the more Spruce it does look. Initially I thought it was Lime, but perhaps that fabled sunlight I never see in the UK makes the paint look different. Spruce green was an immensely popular colour for Anglias in the UK, and probably had the best survival rate of any colour. Unfortunately due its prevalence, many were resprayed in the 90s to stand out a little. Making Spruce a little rarer, you still see plenty though.

Howmanyleft may say there's 33 Cap, but I can assure you there's many, many more. I imagine quite a few in the 1.6k with no year on howmanyleft are 1965 cars. 1965 seems to be a particularly good year for surviving Anglias, both CYD and HMB are 1965, for example. I'm sure I've seen more than 33 at shows!

 

[Heathrow]

Looks like Spruce Green to me, too.

Ford only had three green colours available for the '65 Anglia: Alpina Green, Goodwood Green & Spruce Green. And Alpina and Goodwood are much darker.

It would be funny, though - having 2 Spruce Green 1965 Ford Anglia 105e Deluxe cars on this forum. There are only 33 '65 Anglias left in the UK.

Yes, it is a strange coincidence and both of them recent purchases with excellent bodywork.

A bit like if someone joined with a '69 Mustang, the same color as Nabster's. :?

EDIT: Adrian's BMW 850 would be a better example, there are probably lots of Mustangs in the USA.

 

[Nabster]

Yes, it is a strange coincidence and both of them recent purchases with excellent bodywork.

A bit like if someone joined with a '69 Mustang, the same color as Nabster's. :?

EDIT: Adrian's BMW 850 would be a better example, there are probably lots of Mustangs in the USA.

Yeah, they made 299,824 Mustangs in 1969, nearly half of them coupes, and my Lime Gold color was one of the more popular options. Of the couple of older Mustangs on the forum, I'm pretty sure at least one other was the same color.

 

[Hbriz]

Wow, that looks great in the sunshine. It looks like new!

Did Andeh check the colour code yet? Because that looks the same colour to me.

I wonder how far apart their manufacture was? Did Ford make 100 green ones, then blue ones etc. :lol:

Well one was made in the UK and the other in New Zealand so their manufacture was at least 12000km apart

 

[CAPT_Howdy]

Yeah, they made 299,824 Mustangs in 1969, nearly half of them coupes, and my Lime Gold color was one of the more popular options. Of the couple of older Mustangs on the forum, I'm pretty sure at least one other was the same color.

Yeah, I think airmenair's '67 coupe is - or was - the same color as your '69.

And last summer, I saw a '68 Shelby GT500 in that color driving around near my town, so yeah, Legend Lime is surprisingly popular. I don't know if any of the members of the Mustang club I belong to have any cars in that color, though. At least I haven't seen any at any club events or meets.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread, already in progress.

 

[a.clout]

Looks really nice, and in pretty excellent condition. You're off to a good start as well, if you're changing the radiator hoses I would recommend changing the heater hoses as well. However, looking at the dash, you don't have any heater controls? Am I right in thinking this car only has a cold air intake as opposed to a heater? Like so:

Obviously all other rubber components should be checked as well, but I'm sure you're aware. While you're servicing the other components, do make sure to remember to grease all of the grease nipples.

It's also worth changing the gearbox oil, steering box oil and diff. Depending on whether you have a sealed differential or not, changing the oil on that could be difficult, I had to use a ramshackle siphon system the first time.

Just a note - I see you have leather cleaner, the Anglia should have no leather at all, just vinyl. So I'd check that it's appropriate for the material. (I do see cloth seat covers in your picture though?)

Most importantly, enjoy the car! And keep us updated please.

Thanks Andrew! This particular Anglia didnt have the added extra of the heater - I guess the weather this side of the world is a lot nicer The car has no controls inside for the heater, instead a blanking plate covers the area the switches would have been.

I am only just a beginner with the mechanical side of cars - my father is much handier with a spanner! When you talk about the grease nipples, what am meant to be doing? Im sure my dad will know what your're talking about I think we will also look at doing the steering and gearbox oil as well. Ideally I would like to have all the fluids replaced and thus, know what has been done.

LOL - I was waiting for someone to not the leather cleaner - I looked for a vinyl cleaner but it seemed every interior cleaner other than for cloth seats, was for leather. I am sure it should do the same trick. Looking forward to conversing with you about our Anglias!!

Oh well, you started creating threads for the cars . Too bad you didn't start with an actual car .

Granted, this thing looks like new .

LOL, hey leave the Anglia alone! I will get on to making a thread for the Mustang too
I know, I couldnt believe the condition myself. It does have some imperfections up close but I come to expect that on a car this age.

Wow, that looks great in the sunshine. It looks like new!

Did Andeh check the colour code yet? Because that looks the same colour to me.

I wonder how far apart their manufacture was? Did Ford make 100 green ones, then blue ones etc. :lol:

I have been so busy and haven't got round to checking the manufacturing plate on the Anglia. I do however believe it is the same colour as Andeh's one.
I think it is ironic that we both have found a 1965 105e in the same colorway and we are both called Andrew

Looks like Spruce Green to me, too.

Ford only had three green colours available for the '65 Anglia: Alpina Green, Goodwood Green & Spruce Green. And Alpina and Goodwood are much darker.

It would be funny, though - having 2 Spruce Green 1965 Ford Anglia 105e Deluxe cars on this forum. There are only 33 '65 Anglias left in the UK.

The more I see it, the more Spruce it does look. Initially I thought it was Lime, but perhaps that fabled sunlight I never see in the UK makes the paint look different. Spruce green was an immensely popular colour for Anglias in the UK, and probably had the best survival rate of any colour. Unfortunately due its prevalence, many were resprayed in the 90s to stand out a little. Making Spruce a little rarer, you still see plenty though.

I think you're right abour the initial photos. The camera they were taken on by the PO made the car look a lot darker. Having taken some on my own DLSR the colour looks more fitting to a Spruce green.

Well one was made in the UK and the other in New Zealand so their manufacture was at least 12000km apart

Lol glad somebody picked that up!

 

[Heathrow]

^
I didn't know Anglias were manufactured in NZ, well you learn something new every day. :lol:

 

[Andeh]

I am only just a beginner with the mechanical side of cars - my father is much handier with a spanner! When you talk about the grease nipples, what am meant to be doing? Im sure my dad will know what your're talking about I think we will also look at doing the steering and gearbox oil as well. Ideally I would like to have all the fluids replaced and thus, know what has been done.

Grease nipples or grease points/fittings are little points on moving parts which are filled with grease by a grease gun. You simply thread your grease gun on and pack them full with grease, on the Anglia this is done quite often. Advised at every 1,000 miles, in fact. I suggest you pick up a Haynes or S.F Page manual, very useful things to have if you don't already.

^
I didn't know Anglias were manufactured in NZ, well you learn something new every day. :lol:

I think, like the Australian Anglias, the ones made in New Zealand were manufactured from Complete Knock Down (CKD) kits. All the parts were made in Halewood, then packed into crates for assembly in AU/NZ. I know that's how AU ones worked, but only 98% sure that's how NZ cars came about.

 

[a.clout]

Grease nipples or grease points/fittings are little points on moving parts which are filled with grease by a grease gun. You simply thread your grease gun on and pack them full with grease, on the Anglia this is done quite often. Advised at every 1,000 miles, in fact. I suggest you pick up a Haynes or S.F Page manual, very useful things to have if you don't already.

Sweet, thanks for clearing that up. I talked to Dad about it last night after I saw that post and he knew exactly what it was about. Think were going to do that in the next week or so. Before I bought the car I found a Haynes manual online - they are a useful guide.

I think, like the Australian Anglias, the ones made in New Zealand were manufactured from Complete Knock Down (CKD) kits. All the parts were made in Halewood, then packed into crates for assembly in AU/NZ. I know that's how AU ones worked, but only 98% sure that's how NZ cars came about.

Yup, correct. The cars were assembled together from parts manufactured in the UK. Back in 1936 there was a Ford Plant built in Seaview, Wellington (about 20 minutes from my house). This was the first Motor Vehicle assembly plant in NZ. This plant operated until 1988 where it was shut down. Over this time, it was mostly British Fords that were assembled here - Anglias, Escorts, Cortinas, Zephyrs and Zodiacs. After it was shut down the plant was bought out by a hardware shop - the sad reality that NZ is so small and building cars here is not economical.

The factory during operational years.

Factory nowadays.

 

[Andeh]

It's pretty cool the factory is still around, I'd definitely go there for pictures some time, especially since you said you live quite close.

I intend to take my car to the first owner's house, and then to the Halewood factory for pictures. Unfortunately since Halewood is now Jaguar Land Rover owned, all the Ford blue has gone and everything is green.

 

[Heathrow]

^
AH-HA! (Alan Partridge style!)

So, my (joking) question of manufacter VIN numbers was correct!

If they NZ one is actually a CKD kit made in England, they could still be cousins or even sisters! (With close VIN numbers)

 

[a.clout]

It's pretty cool the factory is still around, I'd definitely go there for pictures some time, especially since you said you live quite close.

I intend to take my car to the first owner's house, and then to the Halewood factory for pictures. Unfortunately since Halewood is now Jaguar Land Rover owned, all the Ford blue has gone and everything is green.

Its so cool! Hard to believe it was once a factory that produced cars when you know wht it is like now! I will definately be taking the car down to have a photo outside, we intend to send a photo of it outside back to the previous owners too.

The first owner would be so happy to see their car again! Its funny going back in time and retracing the history of these cars! So funny to think the car was built a matter of minutes down the road.

 

[a.clout]

Last of the new parts arrived today to do its service;
Oil filter(s)
Fanbelt

The Anglia started using a new oil filter sometime during the end of 1964 and being a newbie to the Anglia I had no idea which one it took so I got both - the guy at the auto store didn't charge me for the other and said to bring back the one that didn't fit - Top Bloke! Must obviously trust me

Now to get under this hood

 

[Andeh]

Just a reminder, please don't forget to do a proof picture, or this topic will get closed.