Andy > Conan. Back in the 90's he was the best thing on tv.
Btw. omglol @ the veyron dressed as a mouse.
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Andy > Conan. Back in the 90's he was the best thing on tv.
Btw. omglol @ the veyron dressed as a mouse.
JohnnyRacer
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Conan gets $45 million exit deal.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100121/...v_leno_o_brien
NEW YORK ? NBC said Thursday it has reached a $45 million deal with Conan O'Brien for his exit from the "Tonight" show, allowing Jay Leno to return to the late-night program he hosted for 17 years.
Under the deal, which came seven months after O'Brien took the reins from Leno, O'Brien will get more than $33 million, NBC said. The rest will go to his staff in severance, the network said in an announcement on the "Today" show.
His final show will be Friday, and Leno will return to "Tonight" on March 1.
"In the end, Conan was appreciative of the steps NBC made to take care of his staff and crew, and decided to supplement the severance they were getting out of his own pocket," his manager, Gavin Polone, told The Wall Street Journal. "Now he just wants to get back on the air as quickly as possible."
O'Brien will be free to begin another TV job as soon as September, NBC said. There has been speculation on where he might go next. ABC (which airs "Nightline" and "Jimmy Kimmel Live!") has said it wasn't interested, while Fox, which lacks a network late-night show, expressed appreciation for his show ? but nothing more.
O'Brien landed the "Tonight" show after successfully hosting "Late Night," which airs an hour later, since 1993. But he quickly stumbled in the ratings race against his CBS rival, David Letterman.
Under Leno, the "Tonight" show was the ratings champ at 11:35 p.m. Eastern, but he proved an instant flop with his experiment in prime time.
Last week NBC announced that the five-hour vacancy in prime time left by Leno will be filled by scripted and reality fare calculated to bring NBC affiliates a more robust lead-in audience for their local news than Leno had been delivering. A provisional slate of shows will include new and veteran NBC dramas, a comedy panel series produced by Jerry Seinfeld and "Dateline NBC."
It had been no secret that the 46-year-old O'Brien was scoring puny ratings numbers on "Tonight," averaging 2.5 million nightly viewers, compared with 4.2 million for Letterman's "Late Show," according to Nielsen figures.
It was even more obvious that "The Jay Leno Show," airing weeknights at 10 p.m. Eastern, was a disaster. Mostly justified by the network for its bargain-basement production budget, it not only was critically slammed, but also found a disappointing popular reaction. It has averaged 5.3 million nightly viewers since its fall debut ? about the same number that watched Leno's final "Tonight" season, in a time slot when far fewer viewers are available. By comparison, the season's top-rated 10 p.m. network drama, CBS' "The Mentalist," has an average audience of 17 million.
But few observers expected the abrupt upheaval that erupted publicly just two weeks ago, when two Web sites posted unsourced stories that the 59-year-old Leno's show would soon be canceled or moved into O'Brien's late-night domain.
Days later, NBC executives unveiled a plan to restore Leno to 11:35 p.m. with a half-hour program, then slide O'Brien's "Tonight Show" to 12:05 a.m., followed by "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon," also pushed back a half-hour.
Disgruntled affiliate stations, which have lost viewers and advertising revenue for their late local newscasts since "The Jay Leno Show" premiered, appeared to spur NBC's sudden changes. The 210 local NBC stations saw their late news audience drop, on average, by 25 percent in November compared with the previous year among desirable 25- to 54-year-old viewers, with the Leno experiment costing the stations collectively $22 million over a three-month period, according to the research firm Harmelin Media.
In a clear vote of no confidence, some rebellious stations were threatening to drop "The Jay Leno Show" and air their own programming.
The network had been counting on O'Brien's cooperation, and wanted an answer quickly, so it could have the configured lineup ready to launch after the Winter Olympics, which will dominate NBC's schedule from Feb. 12-28. But O'Brien threw a wrench into NBC's plans, and triggered a public relations firestorm for the network, when he issued a statement rejecting the offer to delay his show to make room for Leno's return.
O'Brien said that shifting "Tonight" would "seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting," and he declared his disappointment that NBC had given him less than a year to establish himself as host at 11:35 p.m.
The escalating mess furnished plenty of material for jokes by competitors of Leno and O'Brien, as well as the two NBC hosts at its center, who bashed their network and each other.
In one monologue, Leno took note of O'Brien's complaint that NBC brass provided only seven months to establish himself at "The Tonight Show."
"Seven months!" Leno cackled. "How did he get THAT deal? We only got four!"
Returning volley in his own monologue, O'Brien said hosting "Tonight" has been the fulfillment of a lifelong dream and reminded all the kids in the audience, "You can do anything you want in life. Unless Jay Leno wants to do it, too."
Online, many leaped to O'Brien's defense and applauded his stand against NBC. "Team Conan" became a popular Twitter topic for viewers who pledged their allegiance to O'Brien.
An O'Brien portrait also circulated as a badge of support. Referring to the "Tonight" show host's playful nickname, it read, "I'm With Coco," and featured a black-and-white picture of a regal-looking O'Brien standing in front of an American flag. The only color: his shock of orange hair.
For many observers, this clash of talk-show hosts recalled the late-night follies played out by NBC in the early 1990s as the network wavered confoundingly over who ? Letterman or Leno ? should inherit "The Tonight Show" from Johnny Carson.
The current revival of the late-night follies was set in motion nearly six years ago, in what was hatched by NBC executives as a farsighted strategy to ensure an orderly transition.
In the fall of 2004, the network announced that O'Brien would take over for Leno in 2009. That move by NBC ? and endorsed by Leno, despite his clear aversion to leaving "Tonight" ? was designed to keep O'Brien from jumping ship when his contract expired. "Tonight" was the prize O'Brien felt he had earned. He joked that he was looking forward to being on an hour earlier, "at a time when people can see me."
As years passed and Leno strengthened his grip as the late-night ratings champ, NBC anguished over how to keep him usefully occupied on the network somewhere other than "Tonight," and safely out of reach of rival networks who were courting him.
In late 2008, the network caught the public and the industry by surprise with its virtually unprecedented scheme: a new Leno hour "stripped" in prime time from Monday through Friday.
"A lot of people were shocked," Leno joked to reporters when the plan was announced. "They didn't know NBC still had a prime time."
So, $33 Million to stop working. Wish I had that sort of pull.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100121/...v_leno_o_brien
NEW YORK ? NBC said Thursday it has reached a $45 million deal with Conan O'Brien for his exit from the "Tonight" show, allowing Jay Leno to return to the late-night program he hosted for 17 years.
Under the deal, which came seven months after O'Brien took the reins from Leno, O'Brien will get more than $33 million, NBC said. The rest will go to his staff in severance, the network said in an announcement on the "Today" show.
His final show will be Friday, and Leno will return to "Tonight" on March 1.
"In the end, Conan was appreciative of the steps NBC made to take care of his staff and crew, and decided to supplement the severance they were getting out of his own pocket," his manager, Gavin Polone, told The Wall Street Journal. "Now he just wants to get back on the air as quickly as possible."
O'Brien will be free to begin another TV job as soon as September, NBC said. There has been speculation on where he might go next. ABC (which airs "Nightline" and "Jimmy Kimmel Live!") has said it wasn't interested, while Fox, which lacks a network late-night show, expressed appreciation for his show ? but nothing more.
O'Brien landed the "Tonight" show after successfully hosting "Late Night," which airs an hour later, since 1993. But he quickly stumbled in the ratings race against his CBS rival, David Letterman.
Under Leno, the "Tonight" show was the ratings champ at 11:35 p.m. Eastern, but he proved an instant flop with his experiment in prime time.
Last week NBC announced that the five-hour vacancy in prime time left by Leno will be filled by scripted and reality fare calculated to bring NBC affiliates a more robust lead-in audience for their local news than Leno had been delivering. A provisional slate of shows will include new and veteran NBC dramas, a comedy panel series produced by Jerry Seinfeld and "Dateline NBC."
It had been no secret that the 46-year-old O'Brien was scoring puny ratings numbers on "Tonight," averaging 2.5 million nightly viewers, compared with 4.2 million for Letterman's "Late Show," according to Nielsen figures.
It was even more obvious that "The Jay Leno Show," airing weeknights at 10 p.m. Eastern, was a disaster. Mostly justified by the network for its bargain-basement production budget, it not only was critically slammed, but also found a disappointing popular reaction. It has averaged 5.3 million nightly viewers since its fall debut ? about the same number that watched Leno's final "Tonight" season, in a time slot when far fewer viewers are available. By comparison, the season's top-rated 10 p.m. network drama, CBS' "The Mentalist," has an average audience of 17 million.
But few observers expected the abrupt upheaval that erupted publicly just two weeks ago, when two Web sites posted unsourced stories that the 59-year-old Leno's show would soon be canceled or moved into O'Brien's late-night domain.
Days later, NBC executives unveiled a plan to restore Leno to 11:35 p.m. with a half-hour program, then slide O'Brien's "Tonight Show" to 12:05 a.m., followed by "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon," also pushed back a half-hour.
Disgruntled affiliate stations, which have lost viewers and advertising revenue for their late local newscasts since "The Jay Leno Show" premiered, appeared to spur NBC's sudden changes. The 210 local NBC stations saw their late news audience drop, on average, by 25 percent in November compared with the previous year among desirable 25- to 54-year-old viewers, with the Leno experiment costing the stations collectively $22 million over a three-month period, according to the research firm Harmelin Media.
In a clear vote of no confidence, some rebellious stations were threatening to drop "The Jay Leno Show" and air their own programming.
The network had been counting on O'Brien's cooperation, and wanted an answer quickly, so it could have the configured lineup ready to launch after the Winter Olympics, which will dominate NBC's schedule from Feb. 12-28. But O'Brien threw a wrench into NBC's plans, and triggered a public relations firestorm for the network, when he issued a statement rejecting the offer to delay his show to make room for Leno's return.
O'Brien said that shifting "Tonight" would "seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting," and he declared his disappointment that NBC had given him less than a year to establish himself as host at 11:35 p.m.
The escalating mess furnished plenty of material for jokes by competitors of Leno and O'Brien, as well as the two NBC hosts at its center, who bashed their network and each other.
In one monologue, Leno took note of O'Brien's complaint that NBC brass provided only seven months to establish himself at "The Tonight Show."
"Seven months!" Leno cackled. "How did he get THAT deal? We only got four!"
Returning volley in his own monologue, O'Brien said hosting "Tonight" has been the fulfillment of a lifelong dream and reminded all the kids in the audience, "You can do anything you want in life. Unless Jay Leno wants to do it, too."
Online, many leaped to O'Brien's defense and applauded his stand against NBC. "Team Conan" became a popular Twitter topic for viewers who pledged their allegiance to O'Brien.
An O'Brien portrait also circulated as a badge of support. Referring to the "Tonight" show host's playful nickname, it read, "I'm With Coco," and featured a black-and-white picture of a regal-looking O'Brien standing in front of an American flag. The only color: his shock of orange hair.
For many observers, this clash of talk-show hosts recalled the late-night follies played out by NBC in the early 1990s as the network wavered confoundingly over who ? Letterman or Leno ? should inherit "The Tonight Show" from Johnny Carson.
The current revival of the late-night follies was set in motion nearly six years ago, in what was hatched by NBC executives as a farsighted strategy to ensure an orderly transition.
In the fall of 2004, the network announced that O'Brien would take over for Leno in 2009. That move by NBC ? and endorsed by Leno, despite his clear aversion to leaving "Tonight" ? was designed to keep O'Brien from jumping ship when his contract expired. "Tonight" was the prize O'Brien felt he had earned. He joked that he was looking forward to being on an hour earlier, "at a time when people can see me."
As years passed and Leno strengthened his grip as the late-night ratings champ, NBC anguished over how to keep him usefully occupied on the network somewhere other than "Tonight," and safely out of reach of rival networks who were courting him.
In late 2008, the network caught the public and the industry by surprise with its virtually unprecedented scheme: a new Leno hour "stripped" in prime time from Monday through Friday.
"A lot of people were shocked," Leno joked to reporters when the plan was announced. "They didn't know NBC still had a prime time."
So, $33 Million to stop working. Wish I had that sort of pull.
JohnnyRacer
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BTW, Conan had a Veyron on the show last night. You won't find it on NBC's site because they don't want it to be seen. Way to expensive.
But, that won't stop jalopnik.
http://jalopnik.com/5453417/conan-obriens-15-million-bugatti-veyron-mouse
But, that won't stop jalopnik.
http://jalopnik.com/5453417/conan-obriens-15-million-bugatti-veyron-mouse
DarthBane22
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the songs on Conan have gotten really good all of a sudden LMAO
+1 for Conan for playing the origional master for Satisfaction.
+1 for Conan for playing the origional master for Satisfaction.
SpitfireMK461
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That Veyron was the greatest bit I've ever seen. Props to you Conan.
flydiscovery
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That, my friends, is what we call using up 3 months worth of budget in the span of a week. 
I don't believe NBC has no one overseeing his show between recording and airtime, but he's definitely going to milk every last drop that's already been allocated to the show. I know a lot of people are saying he should do something more "socially beneficial" with the money (like donating it somewhere), but I'd be shocked if he has that kind of direct access to the cash. I'll bet it can be spent directly or indirectly on the show and that's it. I'm loving it though.
Am I missing something about the Veyron itself being expensive to show around? I know it's pricey to insure, but it's the music they can't re-play on the internet yes, not the visual of the car right? I guess it was easier to edit the entire bit out than to mute the music, especially since it was critical to the bit.
I don't believe NBC has no one overseeing his show between recording and airtime, but he's definitely going to milk every last drop that's already been allocated to the show. I know a lot of people are saying he should do something more "socially beneficial" with the money (like donating it somewhere), but I'd be shocked if he has that kind of direct access to the cash. I'll bet it can be spent directly or indirectly on the show and that's it. I'm loving it though.Am I missing something about the Veyron itself being expensive to show around? I know it's pricey to insure, but it's the music they can't re-play on the internet yes, not the visual of the car right? I guess it was easier to edit the entire bit out than to mute the music, especially since it was critical to the bit.
BlaRo
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Yeah, I get fired and nobody pays me to leave. Conan gets sacked and ends up making more money than Jesus. There really is no business like show business.
argatoga
Can't Start His Wank
Yeah, I get fired and nobody pays me to leave. Conan gets sacked and ends up making more money than Jesus. There really is no business like show business.
Except as you know Jesus was always poor ...
He got royaly screwed on the book deal. Best selling book of all time and what does he get? A lousy cross and a couple stakes.
argatoga
Can't Start His Wank
Well depends on who you ask (I'm not going to let things get into a religious rant, even I have some restraint when it comes to derailing threads).
Even so I doubt he sold many chairs, or wooden ... whatever-the-hecks back then to make a profit.
Though he could generate fish at a whim so maybe he took the fish commodious market.
hiimandy1
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I think he was joking that he actually bought the Veyron, because he said he spent $1.5 million on the skit. The music thing is probably the reason it's not on, it was played in the studio not overlayed so it would be hard to edit out.
JohnnyRacer
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Not sure how much the bit actually cost. I can promise you it wasn't the cost of the Veyron. That Veyron is actually displayed at Petersen Auto Museum in LA. Apparently the owner is very liberal with it.
Looks like Neil Young is going to be his last musical guest.
http://www.spinner.com/2010/01/21/neil-young-conan-obrien-tonight-show/
That's an excellent choice by Conan, if you ask me.
http://www.spinner.com/2010/01/21/neil-young-conan-obrien-tonight-show/
That's an excellent choice by Conan, if you ask me.
argatoga
Can't Start His Wank
I maybe getting a bit rilled up in things, but I don't see Leno resuming with the same audience. The bad will and distraught following can't help. I can also see Conan recommending the audience watch Letterman instead.
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I agreed with you until the last part. Conan wont knock Leno at all. Lets be honest here, its not Leno's fault. Its NBC's fault this all happened.
motogpboy
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I was just discussing this whole situation with my friend... This is the hypothetical..hysterical situation we came up with.
Sometime in the next month Leno regains some sense of honour and resigns from NBC.
In a bewildering turn of events, Jimmy Fallon has now inherited The Tonight Show.
Even more bewildering, the previously thought dead career of Carson Daly is resurrected when he becomes host of Late Night.
NBC then hosts the reality show "America's Next Top Late Night Host" at the previously vacated 10 PM time slot searching for a replacement to Carson Daly as The Late Night host... with Carson Daly himself one of the contestants, defending his title.
Sometime in the next month Leno regains some sense of honour and resigns from NBC.
In a bewildering turn of events, Jimmy Fallon has now inherited The Tonight Show.
Even more bewildering, the previously thought dead career of Carson Daly is resurrected when he becomes host of Late Night.
NBC then hosts the reality show "America's Next Top Late Night Host" at the previously vacated 10 PM time slot searching for a replacement to Carson Daly as The Late Night host... with Carson Daly himself one of the contestants, defending his title.
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flydiscovery
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LOL because that isn't so far away from how Ferguson ended up with the Late, Late show on CBS. Nothing is impossible.
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Agreed this isn't like Letterman and Leno I don't think Conan and Leno hate each other or even dislike each other at all. This is all NBC just royally fucking stuff up.
In other news...
Fuck we have an insult comic dog down, dog down dammit the humanity why why
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Conan was clearly cut off at the end of his final show.
They were done playing Free Bird when he took a microphone and they cut it off right there. He definitely had some final words to say and NBC wouldn't show it.
Fuck them. I hope Conan goes to a different network and crushes The Tonight Show.
They were done playing Free Bird when he took a microphone and they cut it off right there. He definitely had some final words to say and NBC wouldn't show it.
Fuck them. I hope Conan goes to a different network and crushes The Tonight Show.