prizrak
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Yes people do adapt but the definition of progress is going forward not backward.@ Prizrak:
People adapt. It is how we have survived as a species. Either adapt or learn how to make your own gasoline(which would also be a case of adapting).
O'rly?Yes, make it so! And please, do you honestly believe that BEVs are "by all accounts worse"? There is exaggeration and everything... but that claim is simply embarassing.
Issues with batteries:
Charge times
Unstable "fuel" - batteries are highly affected by ambient temperature, much more than dead dinos (I know its algae but dinos are cooler)
Extremely non-linear rate of consumption - HVAC makes a huge difference to real world "fuel" economy for BEVs. This makes it hard to estimate range correctly
Very limited lifespan - Batteries last about 8-10 years (currently) and are not cheap, that's a huge maintenance cost.
Power generation - fossil fuels are net positive energy storage, as in we put in less energy to get them than we get out of them, while batteries are a net negative since nothing is ever 100% efficient. How are we generating the power to store in the first place?
Additionally things you cannot do with a BEV right now: long distance cargo hauling, marine propulsion, railroad propulsion*, airplane propulsion**, power generation, construction, mining, farming, etc...
*Yes they are serial hybrids but they still use a diesel engine.
**Not sure if jets would be considered ICE but sure as fuck can't run on electricity.
I find it fascinating that you completely dismiss actual legitimate arguments. You also don't even bother reading certain arguments, as I already said BEVs can and do work for many people and that's great they can certainly keep and enjoy them but the topic is forcingI find it fascinating how much "from my cold dead hands" is going on in regards to certain issues...
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BEV is simply nowhere near being good enough to replace ICE, not now not in 10 or even 20 years. There is plain no technology at the moment that could be used and if something new would come out today it would still take a better part of a decade to hit production. And that's just for batterie themselves not new cars that could utilize them.
Cars are insanely complex, look at how long platforms stay around for. S197 was built for 10 years before being replaced and there was no radically new technology required to develop the successor.
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