kaBOOMn
Well-Known Member
O.K I've tried to write this as much as possible without too much bias as you know I'm normally not afraid of putting the boot in, and a comback saying "Your still upset about the ATCC" is lame O.K? :wacko:
The problem is this awesome reputation that the Nissan Skyline GTR has been made into in the electronic media be it by computer games, movies and magazines. Worse still are those from country's that have never had access to these cars (mainly Americans) who have just built this thing up into a huge....well.....Godzilla (you know CAMS should get some kickbacks from Nissan for inventing that term!)
Instantly teenages from around the world will tell you all they know about this car as soon as its mentioned. Some cannot understand on websites when people say something vaugely negative about the Skyline and get quite upset......well really upset.
Two local journelists here both printed articles bagging the older GTR (Mostly the R32) saying how bad they really are. One of the journo's actually owned one, and went about fixing it makeing his own custom G sensors to control the 4WD system since the factory system in his own opinion was terrible. He said it was barely enough to out corner a old Suburu Legacy, and yes he went through tyres etc etc. The other Journo was a bit upset about the amount of lag, and again the poor cornering ability compared to a new RX8......you can probably guess the response...
The other one is the "getting banned because it was too good" in the ATCC Do youself a favor, look what happened (get the race reports) understand WHY it happened. Its a bit of a "oh" when you do.....Don't get me wrong, the GTR provided the shakeup CAMS needed and I wish it could have been kept running but other factors that where not in control of CAMS or anybody else where always going to kill it off.
Its a big worry through no fault of their own that Nissan are being backed into a corner, by all this hype and when the new GTR comes out its going to be a a massive disapointment to a lot of people.
Now I really really hope it isn't for their sake but the amount of project delays and the development team saying they want to get it "spot on" are a worry. Meanwhile crash protection, emissions and marketing factors are eating away at it. I think the big one is weight, with a "light" car like the EVO comeing in around 1432kg (I know somebody who just got his EVO 9 cornerweighted) and that runs a basic 2L motor......it would not supprise me that the car will weigh around 1600 to 1700kg.....so chuckable it isn't going to be.
Now I hope even if it is that weighty they invent some cool whiz bang new feature which "fixes" it, its part of the charm of Japanese cars but I think this is even beyond them
Some people have had a whine of dropping the trusty inline 6 RB engine, but admit it guys the RB was a overweight monster and a inline 6 isn't the best for crash protection, countertorque or weight balance. Yes I love the RB to bits but you have to face facts.....
I'm not against the new Skyline, I'm just really worried about it......I think sadly its another NSX type failure.....I think tho the new GTR won't be a match for the 911 turbo more like a enhanced Alfa Romeo Brera (like the Autodelta one!)
The problem is this awesome reputation that the Nissan Skyline GTR has been made into in the electronic media be it by computer games, movies and magazines. Worse still are those from country's that have never had access to these cars (mainly Americans) who have just built this thing up into a huge....well.....Godzilla (you know CAMS should get some kickbacks from Nissan for inventing that term!)
Instantly teenages from around the world will tell you all they know about this car as soon as its mentioned. Some cannot understand on websites when people say something vaugely negative about the Skyline and get quite upset......well really upset.
Two local journelists here both printed articles bagging the older GTR (Mostly the R32) saying how bad they really are. One of the journo's actually owned one, and went about fixing it makeing his own custom G sensors to control the 4WD system since the factory system in his own opinion was terrible. He said it was barely enough to out corner a old Suburu Legacy, and yes he went through tyres etc etc. The other Journo was a bit upset about the amount of lag, and again the poor cornering ability compared to a new RX8......you can probably guess the response...
The other one is the "getting banned because it was too good" in the ATCC Do youself a favor, look what happened (get the race reports) understand WHY it happened. Its a bit of a "oh" when you do.....Don't get me wrong, the GTR provided the shakeup CAMS needed and I wish it could have been kept running but other factors that where not in control of CAMS or anybody else where always going to kill it off.
Its a big worry through no fault of their own that Nissan are being backed into a corner, by all this hype and when the new GTR comes out its going to be a a massive disapointment to a lot of people.
Now I really really hope it isn't for their sake but the amount of project delays and the development team saying they want to get it "spot on" are a worry. Meanwhile crash protection, emissions and marketing factors are eating away at it. I think the big one is weight, with a "light" car like the EVO comeing in around 1432kg (I know somebody who just got his EVO 9 cornerweighted) and that runs a basic 2L motor......it would not supprise me that the car will weigh around 1600 to 1700kg.....so chuckable it isn't going to be.
Now I hope even if it is that weighty they invent some cool whiz bang new feature which "fixes" it, its part of the charm of Japanese cars but I think this is even beyond them
Some people have had a whine of dropping the trusty inline 6 RB engine, but admit it guys the RB was a overweight monster and a inline 6 isn't the best for crash protection, countertorque or weight balance. Yes I love the RB to bits but you have to face facts.....I'm not against the new Skyline, I'm just really worried about it......I think sadly its another NSX type failure.....I think tho the new GTR won't be a match for the 911 turbo more like a enhanced Alfa Romeo Brera (like the Autodelta one!)
.......as fellow car junkies I hope you can see beyond this.....
