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No innocent man executed, death penalty works...

justin syder

justin syder

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DNA: Virginia executed the right man
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/12/dna.execution.ap/index.html


Unless you know something I don't, and can prove it, no innocent man has been executed and this result furthers that. Although if the death penalty was to be abolished tomorrow I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I think I would rather have someone in prison for life, since it is cheaper than to send him to hell early. At the same time I am not outright against the death penalty. It works and gets rid of society's scum along with giving some sort of closure for the victims and families of victims.
 
Yeah, I think it's done very well (putting a man to death), but I think living in solitary for your whole life is a lot worse.

I really don't have an option on the death penalty.
 
Yeah either way they payback what they have done but I would favor only slightly living 23hr lock down until you are old and wrinkly and farting dust.
 
Anything is better than the system in Canada, where murderers get 8 years, 4 with good behaviour.

I'm not kidding. Right here in Calgary, a guy got kicked out of a bar, went home and got his gun, came back and killed the bar's owner. He got 8 years.

Canadian punishment is a joke.
 
Man, whatever happened to street gangs fighting with sticks and nunchucks and a good old fashioned bar brawl?

I like the Japanese zoku, they still fight with sticks.

Life isn't a John Woo film people, man up and take a punch.

Back on topic, I just think the death penalty is pointless and a little hypocritical. "Killing is WRONG, so now I'm gonna kill your ass!" Very old west.
 
zenkidori said:
Man, whatever happened to street gangs fighting with sticks and nunchucks and a good old fashioned bar brawl?

I like the Japanese zoku, they still fight with sticks.

Life isn't a John Woo film people, man up and take a punch.

Back on topic, I just think the death penalty is pointless and a little hypocritical. "Killing is WRONG, so now I'm gonna kill your ass!" Very old west.
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someone say Bozuzoku style?

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Canadian punishment must be a joke. Is it anything like the jail in Canadian Bacon with John Candy?
 
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justin syder said:
Unless you know something I don't, and can prove it, no innocent man has been executed and this result furthers that.
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Maybe, maybe not. Absence of proof doesn't mean it isn't possible.
Innocent people have (and do) go to jail, so logically it remains possible that an innocent man could be (or has been) executed.

Anyway, whether or not you agree with that doesn't matter to me, since I'm 100% against the death penalty.
I have no problems with people who think otherwise, I just don't think the federal government should have the death penalty.
In general I think moral judgments should be left to each state to decide.
 
Firstly, something along the lines of one hundred prisoners that were on death row have been released. Proven innocent. Given that...over the past decades, am I to assume that everyone executed was guilty?

I saw something on the news about this woman who was executed a very long time ago...and now her name has been cleared.

I'm not sure how interested the government is in trying to continue investigating once a person has been killed. Would they revisit every case?

I'm sure if I looked hard enough, I could find something more conclusive...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruben_Cantu
 
oh...and regarding the thread title. Even if no innocent person has been executed, that doesn't mean the death penalty works....
 
Man, this is such a difficult thread...
I mean, there are so many brutal crimes, I'd say, "kill the fucker" (you know what I mean... as a first reaction...)

But on a second thought, really nobody has the right to kill anybody else...

Lets say I'm glad we don't have the death penalty in Germany. I guess its better that way...
 
I'm not strongly for or against the death penalty. As long as they keep these psychos out of society, I don't care.

Giving closure, symbolism, or "eye for an eye" aren't good reasons to support the death penalty. Punishing a criminal should deter others from following their path and to set an example to society that crimes are indeed punished. I don't think neither of these things happen because people aren't publically hanged, shot, or mutilated in public anymore. It's only on a rare occasion that people are put to death anyways. I think it needs to happen more frequently to be an effective deterrent.
 
Buba said:
Man, this is such a difficult thread...
I mean, there are so many brutal crimes, I'd say, "kill the fucker" (you know what I mean... as a first reaction...)

But on a second thought, really nobody has the right to kill anybody else...

Lets say I'm glad we don't have the death penalty in Germany. I guess its better that way...
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Same here, the only slight favour for it I could see was that I always thought it would be cheaper to kill somebody than keep him in prison for a lifetime - finally, society pays for both methods by taxes, but since Justin says that prison for lifetime is cheaper as well, I don't see any reason for death penalty.
 
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ESPNSTI said:
Absence of proof doesn't mean it isn't possible.
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I don't really think that the death penalty is justified. Two deaths doesn't make it right... If the killer etc. doesn't have the right to kill another person (and obviously no-one does) so howcome it's OK for the government to kill a person??
 
Interesting comments by some...

Those of you that oppose the death penalty, are you pro-choice?

If so, answer this; If you had to choose between saving the life of a death-row inmate or preventing an abortion, say at 6-9 months whatever, which would you choose?

I would rather have a criminal killed and a baby saved. I cannot really say that I am pro-choice or pro-life. If the abortion were illegal I would support that but then again I think abortion saves heartache and a higher chance of a shitty life for someone that isn't responsible enough to use contraceptives. I would rather that baby not be born to that person than to have to force the baby to live with those idiots. I see first hand the type of irresponsibility in my family, neighborhood and some friends. I know what type of people have babies and aren't ready to take care of them. That is why I say that.
 
zenkidori said:
You make it seem as if one would have to choose between the two, which is a logic flaw.
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Yet many anti-capital punishment people are pro-abortion...kill the innocent and save the guilty?
 
I haven't entirely made my mind up on abortion.
I think in most cases I'm against it.
Right now I think my view is that in the very beginning of a pregnancy (when it's litterally just a clump of cells), I wouldn't have a problem with an abortion.
However, if it's 2 months in to the pregnancy (and possibly earlier), I think I would object to it.

I do agree that there are plenty of irresponsible jackasses who have kids when they aren't able to care of them.
Not sure what to do about that.
 
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