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No Malarkey Here!... By Popular Request, the Joe Biden Thread

Critics attack Biden for saying 10-15% of Americans ‘are just not very good people’

Is this Joe Biden’s “basket of deplorables” moment?

While the former vice president was speaking with black supporters in a virtual town hall on Thursday night, he accused President Trump of dividing the nation — but he also made a divisive comment, himself.

“The words a president says matter, so when a president stands up and divides people all the time, you’re going to get the worst of us to come out,” he told “Avengers” star Don Cheadle, who was moderating the forum.
“Do we really think this is as good as we can be as a nation? I don’t think the vast majority of people think that,” Biden continued. “There are probably anywhere from 10 to 15 percent of the people out there who are just not very good people, but that’s not who we are.

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Biden’s Bad Foreign-Policy Ideas

Joe Biden has been wrong a lot on foreign and defense policy. A lot. This year’s presumptive Democratic presidential nominee voted against the 1991 Gulf War, in which the United States and a broad multinational coalition quickly achieved their goals, and in favor of the 2003 Iraq War, and regretted both votes. Years into hostilities, he opposed the troop surges that brought some stability to both Iraq and Afghanistan and even insisted that “the Taliban per se is not our enemy.” He argued for carving Iraq into sectarian statelets even as Iraqis voted for cross-sectarian political lists. And he opposed the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. These stances suggest not only that he lacks a philosophy of how to use military force effectively, but also that his instincts on when to use it are often faulty.

Perhaps for that reason, Biden was seldom a major force in American foreign and defense policy during more than three decades in the Senate—even though he served as the chairman of its Foreign Relations Committee. But he has shown an embarrassing tendency to embellish his contributions, such as claiming he was responsible for ending genocide in Bosnia.

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Biden still wants to increase funding for police departments by $300 million to 'reinvigorate community policing'

Former Vice President Joe Biden's answer for calls to "defund the police" is to double down on more money for reforms.

In a USA Today op-ed Wednesday, Biden reiterated his plan for getting $300 million to departments willing to shake up their practices.

"While I do not believe federal dollars should go to police departments that are violating people's rights or turning to violence as the first resort, I do not support defunding police," Biden wrote. "The better answer is to give police departments the resources they need to implement meaningful reforms, and to condition other federal dollars on completing those reforms."

Biden emphasized that shifting the focus of policing should be the priority.

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Biden: Latino community is diverse, ‘unlike the African American community’

Joe Biden said in remarks on Wednesday that the Latino community is "incredibly diverse," "unlike" the Black community.

"Unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly diverse attitudes about different things," Biden said. "You go to Florida, you find a very different attitude about immigration than you do in Arizona. So it's a very diverse community."

Biden made the comment during an interview hosted by the National Association of Hispanic Journalists and the National Association of Black Journalists that was released in full on Thursday. His remarks on diversity were a response to a question from NPR reporter Lulu Garcia-Navarro, who asked a question about whether Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, would engage with Cuba and on the differing immigration concerns between Cuban and Venezuelan Americans.

Biden's campaign said the comment was meant to describe the diversity of political opinion among Latino Americans and was not a judgment on cultural diversity.

"If you look at the full video and transcript, it’s clear that Vice President Biden was referring to diversity of attitudes among Latinos from different Latin American countries," Symone Sanders, a senior Biden campaign adviser, said in a statement. "The video that is circulating is conveniently cut to make this about racial diversity but that’s not the case.”

But only moments after his campaign responded to POLITICO on his interview, Biden again contrasted Latino and Black Americans — this time explicitly on the topic of national and cultural origin.
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The American choice is between that and a man with skin the color of a 70s bathroom.
 
Yup, neither are good. That doesn’t mean we should keep trump though.
 
I am hoping that the people who live in swing states will vote for Biden. I am also hoping that Biden will actually work to right this ship as he has claimed that he will do.

Getting someone else in the White House will at least give this country the possibility of stopping our norms and institutions from being ignored, side-stepped, dismantled, and destroyed.
 
CraigB said:
Last I knew he was a complete and total Trump nutswinger. I no longer find Dilbert funny...
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I hope one is not related to the other
 
CraigB said:
Find the manifesto he wrote, read it and tell me you can support anything else the man does.
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I fail to see how his views on politics preclude my enjoyment of his comic. If I wanted moral and political alignment from every content creator I follow, my list would be very short indeed.

I wanted to move on from the topic sharing something else from Biden, but it seems like the news cycle at present is shouting at one another about whether Biden's nomination acceptance speech destroys the claims on whether he's senile or not. Media outlets seem to have aligned opposite of how they were when examining Trump's inauguration speech and whether this meant he was going to be more 'Presidential' through his term or not.
 
gaasc said:
I fail to see how his views on politics preclude my enjoyment of his comic. If I wanted moral and political alignment from every content creator I follow, my list would be very short indeed.
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I'm going to disagree a bit here. If you come out as a racist, ignorant slob who would kill a "liberal" just because you could, I'm not going to support you, your arts and endeavors. Voting with my dollars here.
 
CraigB said:
Voting with my dollars here.
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This is the correct thing to do. We just disagree on where the line is, and this is perfectly fine :)
 
So this happened


I am rather upset about it. If you're going to pander to latinos, at least play it through the soundboard, good lord :p

On a tangentially related note, Kamala Harris was doing a visit to Miami a couple of days ago and stopped at a Venezuelan restaurant. news outlets seem to split across their political preference for the visit. With some outlets saying she was greeted enthusiastically by customers and others saying it was more like booing. The owner, for his part, said that he would not have welcomed Harris if he had been made aware she was planning to stop there, arguing that he would prefer not to take any political position.

It's interesting. I imagine Venezuelans are a very difficult demographic to appeal to as a Democrat; whatever is even mildly left of center will probably remind them of how their home country has gotten fucked over across 20+ years of 21st century socialism.
 
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