Bad Bowtie
Well-Known Member
Just throw a catback for sound on one of those S197s and have some fun getting tail happy.
Hmm, well then yay!
I think the F-body interior was 10x better than the New Edge interior, especially shifter placement. In the S197, they got the shifter right, and the interior is good enough for me.
Fact of the matter is really, really attractive girls love guys in 4th gen camaros (they dont know what the hell it is other than its loud and fast, only car nerds pretend we are toothless rednecks), like supermodel-attractive. the ugly redneck ones are usually hanging around the lifted truck boys. Im as baffled as you are about this...
Sorry, i dont have a time slip or something to prove it, it's just my word against yours. Its not like i said attractive girls like camaros as a brand name, more that they like loud, fast, flashy cars.
.... why the hell would attractive girls go to a car show? To look at.... stationary cars?
"Hey girls, you know what i wanna do tonight? Hang out with a bunch of car nerds and talk about oil viscosity and cams!"
Camaro section looks like a sausage-fest.
Than keep it stock, save the money. But dont intentionally buy the slower option, if that (slow, right wheel drive) is your goal than we're right back to the miata discussion.
Even if that is true, the maintenance difference will be small, even negligible, certainly not enough to make any significant savings in viper savings. Eating out less or getting a second job is a far better option than choosing one car over the other.
Crashing cars gets expensive in a hurry no matter what he's in. If the idea is to give a responsible adult a scary car to teach him respect for power, the f-body is spot on.
If this is a cheap stopgap so he's got a little torque, than i suppose it doesnt matter. You're the one that said i was "forgetting the cheap aspect". Also used car prices are kind of going up, not down, especially if people still cant afford new cars in a year or two. I dont expect a good condition f-body to go for much less than it does now, they're not exactly new cars and depreciating like rocks.
Given your feelings on the administration, i dont think your outlook on economic recovery is rosy, is it?
As Spectre mentioned, I'm mostly looking for a baby Viper here both in terms of power and handling characteristics.
Not a big fan of Camaros. I'd rather get a Mustang.
Cue the domestic brand faction telling you about spare parts prices, availability and aftermarket, even though under the given circumstances, only spare part prices matter, as Viper won't mod the car and if he does not service it himself, getting the spare pars will be his garage's problem.Viper, have you looked into an early 350z?