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"I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'"
--Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation

http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2005_08.php
August 05, 2005
FCC Issues Rule Allowing FBI to Dictate Wiretap-Friendly Design for Internet Services

Tech Mandates Force Companies to Build Backdoors into Broadband, VoIP

Washington, DC - Today the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) issued a release announcing its new rule expanding the reach of the Communications Assistance to Law Enforcement Act (CALEA). The ruling is a reinterpretation of the scope of CALEA and will force Internet broadband providers and certain voice-over-IP (VoIP) providers to build backdoors into their networks that make it easier for law enforcement to wiretap them. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has argued against this expansion of CALEA in several rounds of comments to the FCC on its proposed rule.

CALEA, a law passed in the early 1990s, mandated that all telephone providers build tappability into their networks, but expressly ruled out information services like broadband. Under the new ruling from the FCC, this tappability now extends to Internet broadband providers as well.

Practically, what this means is that the government will be asking broadband providers - as well as companies that manufacture devices used for broadband communications ? to build insecure backdoors into their networks, imperiling the privacy and security of citizens on the Internet. It also hobbles technical innovation by forcing companies involved in broadband to redesign their products to meet government requirements.

"Expanding CALEA to the Internet is contrary to the statute and is a fundamentally flawed public policy," said Kurt Opsahl, EFF staff attorney. "This misguided tech mandate endangers the privacy of innocent people, stifles innovation and risks the functionality of the Internet as a forum for free and open expression."

At the same time, the Department of Justice (DOJ) is asking airlines to build similar backdoors into the phone and data networks on airplanes. EFF and the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT) submitted joint comments to the FCC arguing against the DOJ's unprecedented and sweeping new technology design mandates and anticipatory wiretapping system.

The FCC's new proposal to expand CALEA to airline broadband illustrates the fallacy of law enforcement's rationale for its CALEA request. The DOJ takes the position that broadband has "substantially replaced" the local telephone exchange, but this claim is reduced to the point of absurdity aboard an airplane and opens the door for CALEA to cover just about anything.

Contact:

Kurt Opsahl
Staff Attorney
Electronic Frontier Foundation
kurt@eff.org
Posted at 05:49 PM
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So, lately I've been really pissed off at the FDA and FTC, and for good reason. The fuckers are poisoning Americans, anyway, I can't proove it so what the hell does it matter. I seriously don't want to live in a world where there is no freedom :sleep:
I don't want that to sound like some suicide statement, 'cause it's not, it's just...how did we let this happen? We may not have to wait 10-15 years for the freedom to be taken away from the Internet :|
 
yet another fucking american invention to take away more freedom.. so much for a country that's supposed to bring more and more freedom to it's citizens.. USA's becoming the biggest joke of the century
 
Renesis said:
yet another fucking american invention to take away more freedom.. so much for a country that's supposed to bring more and more freedom to it's citizens.. USA's becoming the biggest joke of the century
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I can agree with that in most cases most of the time.

I think they are going a bit far with the mandate to have wiretappibility mandatory. Sigh, I don't get this world sometimes, at least we have cars.
 
So they're doing this so they can fight terrorists better to preserve freeedom?

Or in other words limiting freedom to protect freedom? :?
 
Ultra_Kool_Dude said:
So they're doing this so they can fight terrorists better to preserve freeedom?

Or in other words limiting freedom to protect freedom? :?
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It seems that is the case. Unfortunately for us. :(
 
Now watch the US government try and push the rest of the world into following that move. <_<

Canada, due mostly to a lack of backbone from its politicians, will fall in line behind its bully neighbour fast, I'm sure ... :(
 
Roman said:
Now watch the US government try and push the rest of the world into following that move. <_<

Canada, due mostly to a lack of backbone from its politicians, will fall in line behind its bully neighbour fast, I'm sure ... :(
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Whereas Australia's leaders will no doubt put their hands up and offer to join in without waiting to be bullied :(
 
Ultra_Kool_Dude said:
Or in other words limiting freedom to protect freedom? :?
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until there's no freedom left to protect :?
and who has won then ?
 
Firecat said:
So basically allow the government to tap into VoIP?

CALEA already allows the government to tap into calls on telephone companies networks, so I'm not that surprised by this move considering the rise of services like Vonage.

CALEA, Comverse, and Israel....hmmmmm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6480.htm
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No, not just VoIP, your ISP as well, they aslo wanted to do it to those new WiFi systems in airliners, but hit a snag thanks to the CDT:

http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,68407,00.html?tw=rss.TOP
 
This has been in the works for a long time, it's just a way for them to clear up the legality of tapping the same things for the same reasons as the normal phone system, just with the new technology. They already do it, but it's murky legal water. There are already things like Echelon(which Canada DOES participate in, so STFU), CarnivoreII and all that, so this is nothing new. This just lets them use wiretap evidence just as they normally would but with VoIP.

The best thing to do if you are worried about this type of thing is get off your ass and learn to program. There are already quite a few VoIP encryption programs out there, and you could participate in thier development or write your own. Freedom comes back when you take it back, not when you sit around and bitch. Learn and use a free and open source operation system, if you use Windows you're inviting people in right there, so it's your own fault. Use PGP, don't use your SSN for anything, etc. There are a lot of ways you VOLUNTARILY give away your freedom, so take care of those first.
 
So I guess all you drug lords, internet hackers and money launderers have much to worry about after this now. :lol:

I dont really understand what "freedom" was taken away? Someone please fill me in.
 
My favorite argument is the "if you aren't doing anything wrong, what do you have to worry about?" line.

Oh please, won't someone trot that one out? I bet Cruzz would flip his lid. :lol:
 
justin syder said:
So I guess all you drug lords, internet hackers and money launderers have much to worry about after this now. :lol:

I dont really understand what "freedom" was taken away? Someone please fill me in.
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Privacy?
 
Ultra_Kool_Dude said:
So they're doing this so they can fight terrorists better to preserve freeedom?

Or in other words limiting freedom to protect freedom? :?
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And that wonderful Patriot Act has brought in ZERO terrorists! Whoopee!
gtrietsc said:
My favorite argument is the "if you aren't doing anything wrong, what do you have to worry about?" line.

Oh please, won't someone trot that one out? I bet Cruzz would flip his lid. :lol:
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One post right above yours.
 
omg america sucks
 
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