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- Given FIAT's reputation, engine might explode the day the warranty runs out
"Given fiat's reputation..." what reputation is this?
They sold 2 million cars in 2011, they have to do something right.
- Given FIAT's reputation, engine might explode the day the warranty runs out
[*]1.4 turbo has no power below 2,200 RPM (noticeable turbo lag, can barely pull car along)
[*]Given FIAT's reputation, engine might explode the day the warranty runs out
I don't know what kind of engines they give to the Yanks, but I can assure you that the 1.4 16v Multiair Turbo that I recently drove and experienced, showed barely any lag. What lag there was, was under 1500rpm. Stock factory.
2013 Dodge Dart Limited
Pros:
- 4-wheel disc brakes standard
2012 Lincoln MKZ
Neutral:
- Exterior styling (some like it, some don't)
They still make cars that don't have this as standard? Sure, mine hasn't, but mine was built in 2003, and probably designed in 1993... I though this was a given on any car now (aside sooper cheap econoboxes), correct me if I'm wrong
I like. Based on the latest 9-5 Saab I presume? (I drove that one)
They still make cars that don't have this as standard? Sure, mine hasn't, but mine was built in 2003, and probably designed in 1993... I though this was a given on any car now (aside sooper cheap econoboxes), correct me if I'm wrong
It's basically the same engine in the FIAT 500 Abarth, but from my understanding they turn the turbos all the way up to 11...
Dodge Dart 1.4T - 160hp @ 5,500RPM, 184lb-ft @ 2,500RPM
Fiat 500 Abarth - 133hp @ 5,500RPM, 130lb-ft (152lb-ft in sport mode) @3,000RPM
...don't know which one you drove.
I believe the configuration it has in the Dart is the most powerful (at least in torque). Other FIAT cars with this engine produce about the same horsepower (160), but less torque.
Wondering if the difference in engine configuration is the problem, because in the Dart the turbo lag is noticeable...
Both of my cars came with 4x discs stock back in the late 80's. "Prices starting with" models seem to have drums even today.They still make cars that don't have this as standard? Sure, mine hasn't, but mine was built in 2003, and probably designed in 1993... I though this was a given on any car now (aside sooper cheap econoboxes), correct me if I'm wrong
Yes, even today a number of cars, usually entry-level models, still have discs up front and drums at the back as standard with an option for discs all around. My Ford Focus is an example; rear disc brakes come with the optional sport package...
Must be a US market thing, you cannot get a new Focus with rear drums over here.
It's all about keeping costs down...there's still a lot of people who won't or can't due to family size, needs, etc. consider a B segment car like a Fiesta or Sonic, but still need a low price point. Being able to advertise a "under 15k" price..something's gotta give.
I'd dump the keyless entry in return for disc brakes while maintaining the 16.2k entry price easily.
I'd also not have a problem with dumping the 160hp 2.0 in return for a cheaper engine, but I presume that's a no-no in the market.
Most important is the engine. When you put your foot down.... holy shit. It's like taking off in a plane but so much faster. You and your seat become one. The noise the car makes is astonishing with a high pitched note as it revs up to 8k RPM combined with the bellowing of all 5 liters of that V10. Put the power on and everyone within a mile will start looking around to find what's making that noise.
It's basically the same engine in the FIAT 500 Abarth, but from my understanding they turn the turbos all the way up to 11...
Dodge Dart 1.4T - 160hp @ 5,500RPM, 184lb-ft @ 2,500RPM
Fiat 500 Abarth - 133hp @ 5,500RPM, 130lb-ft (152lb-ft in sport mode) @3,000RPM
...don't know which one you drove.