Pakistan jet with 152 on board crashes

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A commercial Pakistani passenger plane with 152 people on board crashed in bad weather in hills near Islamabad on Wednesday, and officials said there were so far no survivors.

Airbus says the aircraft (MSN1218) was registered as AP-BJB and leased to the airline in January 2006. The aircraft had logged 34,000 flight hours and 13,500 flights. It was powered by International Aero Engines V2500 engines.

At least 20 people were confirmed dead when the Airbus 321, belonging to private airline Airblue, crashed in heavy rain while flying from the southern port city of Karachi. Rescue efforts are continuing, officials said.

"So far, we have not found any survivors," Imtiaz Elahi, chairman of the state-run Capital Development Authority, a city municipal body, told Reuters.

He said earlier reports that five survivors had been pulled from the wreckage were wrong.

Rescuers said they had to dig through the rubble with their bare hands, with fire and thick smoke hampering their work. The crash site, on a steep and heavily wooded hill, has no roads, limiting access to pedestrians and helicopters.

"You find very few intact bodies. Basically, we are collecting bodies parts and putting them in bags," Bin Yameen, senior officer in the Islamabad police, told Reuters from the scene of the crash.

"I don't know what exact death toll but one can imagine how many could survive in such a bad situation.

"Bodies are being lifted through helicopters."

The plane lost contact with the control room of the Islamabad International Airport at 5:43 a.m. British time. It was carrying 146 passengers and six crew members.

A thick blanket of cloud and smoke caused by fire could be seen rising from the crash site. A helicopter hovered overhead and flames licked at trees and what appeared to be wreckage from the plane, television pictures showed.

"We are removing wreckage with our hands. There is fire. There's smoke, which has made the rescue job very difficult," Bin Yameen said.

The crash site is on the Margalla Hills facing Islamabad, about 300 meters (yards) up the side of the hills. Smoke was visible from some districts of the city, and crowds of onlookers lined the streets pointing and watching the smoke rise from the green hills.

"It was raining. I saw the plane flying very low from the window of my office," witness Khadim Hussain said.

Pakistan's AAJ television showed rescue workers making their way on foot to the crash site with some difficulty. A young man was weeping and being embraced by another man.

The military said it had sent three helicopters to the site and troops had also been moved there.

Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani ordered authorities to control the fire immediately and rescue passengers.

Officials at the British and U.S. embassies in Islamabad said they were trying to confirm if any of their nationals had been onboard the crashed plane.

HEAVY RAINS

There had been heavy monsoon rains in the area for at least a couple of days.

Airblue began operations in 2004 with a fleet of Airbus A320 and A321 aircraft, according to its website www.airblue.com.

Spokesman Raheel Ahmed said this was the first crash for the airline and that an investigation was being launched.

"It's too early to speculate," he said about the cause of the crash. "The civil aviation authorities will also be involved."

Airbus confirmed one of its planes was involved in the Airblue crash.

"We regret to confirm there has been an accident with an Airbus aircraft and we will provide more information when we have more confirmed data available," said Airbus spokesman Stefan Schaffrath.

At Islamabad's international airport, passengers in the departure lounge scanned the television screens for news.

"I'm not surprised something like this has happened," said Ahmed Fairuz, a passenger awaiting departure. "The weather is just too bad for flying."

Aviation industry sources in Europe said the aircraft was leased from International Lease Finance Corp, the leasing unit of U.S. insurance giant AIG

Los Angeles-based ILFC was not available for comment and there was no immediate confirmation of these details.

The A321 is the largest of the A320 family of single-aisle jets produced by EADS subsidiary Airbus. This particular type of aircraft, which can seat up to 185 passengers, has been in service since 1994.

Forty-five people were killed when a passenger plane belonging to Pakistan International Airlines crashed near the central city of Multan in 2006.

From Reuters & Aviation Week

This hurts on a personal note as a member of the aviation industry :(
 
Not to sound insensitive, but what is political about this particular crash?
 
Not sure where to put it, just throwing it in off topic seemed more insensitive :|
 
Do we have any black box data or anything yet, or could it have just been purely weather related and no mechanical/electrical problems.





Though, even with crashes like this, flying is still by far the safest way to travel.
 
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They aren't talking any thing about the black boxes yet. :mad:

The current verdict on the news is that it is a human error, the pilot didn't respond to control station even after they told the him that his path was wrong.
and the pilot wasn't just a pilot, he was a very very experienced pilot and quite old at that too.

Things they are saying aren't matching up right now. They're hiding something very big I suppose.
 
They aren't talking any thing about the black boxes yet. :mad:

The current verdict on the news is that it is a human error, the pilot didn't respond to control station even after they told the him that his path was wrong.
and the pilot wasn't just a pilot, he was a very very experienced pilot and quite old at that too.

Things they are saying aren't matching up right now. They're hiding something very big I suppose.

It sounds like the search and rescue was very chaotic, which is sad as a badly co-ordinated rescue may have led to some people who initially survived dying (purely speculation, but people have survived worse plane crashes but died at the scene when help didn't respond in time).

I would say this is going to be a CFIT similar to the Cali crash, except with weather causing the disorientation rather than purely navigation issues (athough i wouldn't be surprised if that was a factor). Really sad to have another major airliner crash, can only take solace in that we learn from each one and the skies are infinitely safer because of it.

Pretty nasty week for airframes too, had that Lufthansa cargo MD-11 basically written off the day before! (fortunately no fatalities in that one)
 
It sounds like the search and rescue was very chaotic, which is sad as a badly co-ordinated rescue may have led to some people who initially survived dying (purely speculation, but people have survived worse plane crashes but died at the scene when help didn't respond in time).

I would say this is going to be a CFIT similar to the Cali crash, except with weather causing the disorientation rather than purely navigation issues (athough i wouldn't be surprised if that was a factor). Really sad to have another major airliner crash, can only take solace in that we learn from each one and the skies are infinitely safer because of it.

Pretty nasty week for airframes too, had that Lufthansa cargo MD-11 basically written off the day before! (fortunately no fatalities in that one)


The rescue operation in my opinion was very quick considering the kind of place the airplane crashed. No ambulance or SUVs could go there, the rescue people made chains and stepped up the mountain one-by-one, others were dropped off by helis.. the dead bodies and their pieces :( were transported by the helis.. there are no roads nearby.. and it was raining as well..
 
Oh please, they always are.
I know a dozen 'experienced' pilots who are just insecure in what they are doing. And it doesn't get better with them getting older, too.

Yeah, I was just saying that he wasn't a new pilot either, has at least 25 years of flight experience to his credit.
 
The rescue operation in my opinion was very quick considering the kind of place the airplane crashed. No ambulance or SUVs could go there, the rescue people made chains and stepped up the mountain one-by-one, others were dropped off by helis.. the dead bodies and their pieces :( were transported by the helis.. there are no roads nearby.. and it was raining as well..

I'm just going by what was written here, seems like from the state of the debris and pax not much could have been done anyway :(

I'm just reminded of crashes like JAL123 and THY1951 (FO died because rescuers couldn't get into the cockpit in time due to security measures installed on it). Fortunately 99% of the time rescues are done really well.
 
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