Pontiac testride report...

klutch

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I was shopping for new motorbikes in Washington State over the weekend with a friend, since the MSRP on new bikes is so much lower south of the border. On the way back, we were heading through the typical rural (read: backwoods) towns of Washington and realized how late car dealers are opened in the US. Being a Canuck, I was delighted to see some cars not available in Canada, specifically, some GTO's and Mitsu Evolutions.

We came across this dealer - a totally surreal place - and decided to stop and take a look. The place boggled my mind. It was around 8pm and dark, so the place was pretty slow, yet there was a lineup of salesguys in front of the massive building in the center of the lot. The inventory was...eclectic, to say the least. It was all used, but ranging from XKR's, to new Vettes (even an '07 Z06), CLS55's, SRT4's, an orange Elise, Hummer's, Camaro's, Vipers, 300C's and SRT8's.....everything. But all used, and most with 'bling'. I figure most of the rides were either stolen or reposessed, and bought back at auction.

Anyway, I was drooling over some of the machines, and feigned an interest in one of the Evolutions, having never been in one. Took it for a spin, but it was kind of disappointing; it had over 50,000 miles on it, and probably not the most gentle of miles. Turbo was bagged, suspension was too hard, and the lag was pretty nasty. Got back, swapped for a black GTO (http://www.detroitautoworks.com/veh...Pontiac&modelGTO&inv=41&vin=6G2VX12GX4L190564), which showed more promise. Only 2500 miles on the odo (which may have been lying...why would an '04 GTO have so few?). My friend riding shotgun, salesdouche in the backseat. I take it easy off the lot, get onto a backroad, and realize the steering is FUBAR...car is hanging to the right like a 50-year old pornstar, and the rear suspension is clunking over speedbumps. I was determined not to let this spoil the ride, and get on the gas hard in 2nd. Engine was great; car jumped forward and my co-pilot started giggling uncontrollably. The light ahead was red, so I stopped, popped first, and got on the gas hard... the car stepped sideways, going uphill, and I felt the salesguy grab my headrest. Something felt strange though; suspension was shifting more than a live rear should. We got to an onramp to hwy 5, but one of Washington's finest state patrol was alongside us, so I couldn't goose it. The pull to the right on the highway was pretty bad; getting on the gas made it worse. Co-pilot finall made himself useful and pointed out the TCS button on the center console; a bit of fiddling, and it was off...making for a much more spirited offramp exit... and prompting a "keep the rear behind us, please" exclamation from Salesguy. I resisted for about a mile, but couldn't keep my foot off the floor. I turned into an empty parking lot behind the dealership at the direction of Salesguy, after overshooting the entrance (my mistake, I swear). With a nice, long island of parking-barrier-things down the center of the lot, I put the beast in 2nd, cranked the wheel right, and planted my foot. Tires came loose, the car rotated like it should, and we shed some excess weight off the rear rubber in a handfull of fairly well executed donuts. Salesdouch wasn't impressed...but then again, isn't his job to make sure I am?

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Hey, I get paid to be an a**hole. Really.

Also, tirekickers need greater representation to keep salesmen looking busy.
 
You're braver than I am; doing donuts in a car that was clearly knackered -- you know that if you break it, you fix it, right?

BTW, the GTO doesn't have a live rear end, it's IRS.

Steve
 
By the beard of Zeus, you're right!

Shocks must've been bagged...or something broken.
 
I'm thinking accident/theft. Alignment was wayyy off, and for a 2004 GTO in Washington State (all highways...), this would seem suspicious. These kinds of cars don't generally spend their time as garage-queens.
 
That's an 05-06 GTO, not an 04. I know it's listed as an 04 with the LS1, but the hood scoops and dual exghaust tell me it's the later version with the LS2. Maybe the owner changed the appearance, or maybe the dealer doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about.
 
Definitely a genuine updated one with the LS2. They made them back in 2004, infact they started making them in September 2004.
 
I don't believe you.. And if i change my mind i'd think your the douche for trashing a car that isnt yours.

It sounds like it's pretty fucked up to begin with and the dealer just wanted to unload it on someone.
 
I'm certain it was an '04. Engine even had "LS1" engraved on it. Did a carfax check on the VIN, it has 5 claims on it...

If it was made with an LS2, even "manufactured in September," it would've been a 05 model year designation.

I have no morals regarding trashing cars from sleazy dealers like this.
 
I have no morals regarding trashing cars from sleazy dealers like this.
:yes: He knew the cars history, and was probably charging way too much for it amirite?

Five claims? Jeezus they must have rebuilt the whole car and rolled the odometer back over. I would love to own a new GTO, but definitely not one that destroyed.
 
I'm guessing the hood isn't the one it left the factory with...

Steve
Looks like a factory '05-'06 hood. I prefer the earlier plain ones :yes:.
 
Looks like a factory '05-'06 hood. I prefer the earlier plain ones :yes:.

boooooorrriiinnng

Personally dont care for the way you trashed the car, not because i have something against aggressive driving, but the car wasn't yours. At the same rate i have no clue how trashy the dealer was. :lol:
 
:yes: He knew the cars history, and was probably charging way too much for it amirite?

Five claims? Jeezus they must have rebuilt the whole car and rolled the odometer back over. I would love to own a new GTO, but definitely not one that destroyed.

It has 5 car records, not 5 insurance claims. He didn't do a carfax report, just a record check.

I doubt there is anything wrong with the car or the dealer. It is not a low profile dealer.
 
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I doubt there is anything wrong with the car or the dealer. It is not a low profile dealer.

I have had many friends with much experience in all different genres of cars, and they will happily support the fact that the GTOs DO NOT come with a standard factory option of "mangled" from the factory. I know driving a dreary car must make you rather hateful, but the sooner you realize that cars other then the ones of your liking simply don't just fall apart the sooner you'll learn how unbelievably bad your Camry is as a dynamic driving experience.
 
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