- Jan 20, 2004
- 2016 Holden Commodore (chevy ss), 2020 Explorer ST
JCE;n3547673 said:The SS has a length just under 196" and the Charger starts at around 198". The Challenger start just under 198". So no, if the SS won't fit neither with the MOPARs. And for that matter neither will the CTS-V as that starts at just under 198" in length.
That's a good joke mate. Any V8 Charger or Challenger with the Super Track Pack (including R/T's) will hold its own versus your SS in a straight line or around a corner--there is no "floor wiping" to be had here in the real world on the street. Obviously you've never driven one of these MOPARs and only believe what you read online and that's too bad. And you are correct that the 392 Scat Pack (392 SRT or any 392 for that matter) will destroy the SS in every category except weight. Especially if they have the six-piston Brembos up front (dynamics package) and the adaptive suspension upgrade. All of these aforementioned packages and the 392's torque help overcome the extra ~450lbs or so they have over the SS. While I think the SS looks pretty plain (needs more HSV kit) as a Chevy instead of a Holden or Pontiac I do like the vehicle as a whole and am sad to see them go. I cross-shopped one before I bought my '16 R/T. I just didn't feel like it was any faster on the street, especially since it (the SS) has an inferior automatic transmission. Oh and I didn't like the interior, but that's not its fault its GM's in general that have shit interiors. Too bad Pontiac was dead at that time because I could of just as easily bought the G8 GXP since it looked better than the SS and I had a thing for them. In the end getting my '16 R/T brand new for $28k and that awesome 8spd transmission sold it for me.
It is a shame that the large V8 RWD saloon car is a dying breed with GM killing off the SS that only leaves the Charger left to hold the large V8 saloon category from dying completely in the US.
Your right I have not driven one and on the street they are both capable. The G8 does have way more character than the SS and like you said you can blame corporate design standards for that thankfully for not much money you can add some character back by replacing the horrendous gold bow ties along with removing all the chrome. I get far more looks and comments about my SS than I did when I had the XFR, but if you want a manual, 4 doors, RWD and a V8 you are going to be hard pressed to find something better.
I am just happy there are people out there like us who are specifically looking for RWD V8s in this day and age