- Feb 27, 2009
- Ruhr Area, Germany
- MX-5 ND, Tracer 900 GT & two bikes
It looks like it can do quite a bit off roading. The reviews show it can handle those duties quite well. Most people won't be taking it on trails, so they want to make it appealing to them at the same time. My old Disco 1 suffered on-road from the solid axels. I'm amazed so many soccer mom's bought the thing.To me it seems like an LR4 with a bit more load carrying. It's still an overcomplicated luxury SUV and the standard 18" wheels tell me it more intended for pavement than trails.
I agree with @Blind_Io as it's a tougher LR4, but is that such a bad thing? It's what the LR4 should have been. 6L/100km is really good for a brick I think.
I could totally see myself owning a new Defender. It’s chunky, practical and capable and also modern and high tech. I love it. I just wish they’d skipped the sideways hinged rear door.
Hold on a second, I never said it was tougher than an LR4 - because it isn't. The only thing it has over the LR4 is greater payload. It's still riding on a fragile air suspension that, when it fails (and it will fail) the vehicle will default to it's lowest ride height and be essentially suck wherever it happens to be. The wheels are too large at 18" to do anything other than mild grass-and-gravel, you can't air down the low profile tires for sand, rocks, or mud without risking a snakebite puncture or a damaged wheel. The vehicle is too complex and relies too heavily on computer systems and sensors to operate - even my Xterra had the 4WD and rear diff disabled by a frayed wire, imagine how much this thing will freak out when it can't talk to all the sensors?
There's off road, and there's Off Road. All the manufacturers like to brag up their off road chops, but for those who need Off Road, LR and similar brands haven't been a consideration since the (real) Defender. For true Off Road ability you have to be able to rely on the hardware and not have to hope the tech gizmos can get you through.It looks like it can do quite a bit off roading. The reviews show it can handle those duties quite well. Most people won't be taking it on trails, so they want to make it appealing to them at the same time. My old Disco 1 suffered on-road from the solid axels. I'm amazed so many soccer mom's bought the thing.
Rover is having its cake and eating it too with the technology in the new Defender. If the tech breaks while off road, you're SOL however.
If someone wants something more durable and modifiable there's always the Wrangler.
Why climb when you can dig? It'll make it to China before you get to the top of the trail.Neither is useful off road unless you are doing off road racing. You want the lowest gears, the lowest end torque, and locking diffs. A stock FJ-80 with factory lockers will out-climb any 700+ BHP vehicle with open diffs where I wheel.
More throttle and more power is how you destroy vehicles off road.