Out of random curiosity because I'm in a "no pickup truck for anything" phase, I decided to check and see what Ford Econoline vans go for.
in my area within a 300mi radius, you're not seeing a van whether it's 150 (1/2 ton suspension) or more for less than $16,000usd if you want 2006 or newer. Passenger type or commercial.
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
Seriously, I don't care if a van is a tool to make you money, 10+ years old in a place that has winter and eleventy-billion tons of salt on the roads every season, that is uncalled for. It'll be a rusty mess and anything that needs physical replacement is going to be a giant pain in the ass to replace.... It's just stupid the prices people want. I was expecting 4 digit pricing but saw middle 5 digit pricing. FUCK OFF.
/rant.