- Dec 11, 2005
We must remember this truth: No matter our color, creed, religion or political party, we are ALL AMERICANS FIRST.
Oh my, how dare he, right?We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Lets come together as one!
Agreed. If you are going to lambaste Obama for not calling out terrorists attacks as being Islamist extremists, then you need to call out the neo nazis and KKK and the driver of that car for what it is.Condemned? That was barely anything. Violence is bad mmm'kay. And when he was directly asked about the alt-right, he walked away.
It would make a difference, but not necessarily with the tougher-than-thou keyboard warriors you're talking about.It wouldn't make a difference. He could spend an hour slamming Nazis and they would just say something along the lines of...
To be fair, this is the first time something like this has happened. And there were tons of conflicting reports about who was driving the car. They knew the car was out of state, but they didn't initially know which state. They found a match in Michigan that belonged to a Bernie Sanders supporter who posted Anti-Trump stuff online. But then better photos of the plate emerged, which showed that it was from Ohio, which belonged to this other guy, who nobody knew anything about. Apparently he didn't have much of a social media life. Then reports were saying the back window of the car was smashed prior to driving into the crowd, leading people to suspect that it may have been a panicked driver who was fleeing from people attacking his car.It would make a difference, but not necessarily with the tougher-than-thou keyboard warriors you're talking about.
For one, it would have shown Trump to be a man if his word (yeah, right). Seriously, though.... I'm about consistency: if you are someone who felt Obama was soft on calling out terrorist attacks as being Muslim extremists, then the same applies in this case. Trump failing to do this from the start was pathetic, just like how the organizer of the rally tried to disavow the violence of that car plowing 19 people by just saying "they did the wrong thing." Pathetic.
The problem with saying things like this is that it portrays every Trump voter as a David Duke supporter. Of course the reality is that a tiny minority of Americans who agree with Duke in any way, shape, or form do not represent the tens of millions who voted for Trump.I for one, am very glad to see those David Duke tweets. Because now the association (real or perceived) on behalf of the far right to Trump's voter base is cemented.
WTF does the NRA have to do with someone ramming a car into people?
Also known as checks and balances. I sure wouldn't want everyone to always agree in Congress.partisan fighting
Patriotism. Very different things.nationalism
Armed resistance to what? The people with all the gun elected the president they wanted. Germany would've been better off with some armed resistance but you gave up your guns to Hitler."armed resistance"
:lol: Now you're really grasping at straws."save the nation" (a.k.a. #MAGA)
You got all that from a fight between extreme fringes that this country's leadership immediately spoke out against? Wow!an incompetent President with serious psychological issues, economic uncertainty and inequality
There was literally a neo-nazi rally in Dresden this year. Perhaps you should start by researching who the bad guys were and who the good guys were before spouting nonsense.perhaps it would have been nice to teach Americans more history than they bad, we good, we won.
Both sides are a problem, the main difference with utlra left and far right is that it's pretty easy to see that white supremacy or nazism is terrible, it's a lot harder to see what's wrong with the ultra left. Most of the rhetoric from the right is just plain hateful with no real veil on it, left's rhetoric is ostensibly about making things better for everyone.Only the left is dividing us? Watch that video I posted and tell us that again.
a political system brought to its knees by partisan fighting
There's checks and balances, and then there's what's been happening in Congress. It's not 'checks and balances' to have to rewrite Senate rules because of partisan stonewalling, nor is it 'checks and balances' to treat the Supreme Court as a political football. Calling some of the fuckery 'checks and balances' is disingenuous at best.Also known as checks and balances. I sure wouldn't want everyone to always agree in Congress.
And in this case, it's nationalism. A lot of the groups in Charlottesville weren't even hiding it, they call themselves nationalists or fascists or other such terms, in addition to bandying about nationalist symbols.Patriotism. Very different things.
"armed resistance" being touted as the ways to "save the nation" (a.k.a. #MAGA)
Armed resistance to what? The people with all the gun elected the president they wanted. Germany would've been better off with some armed resistance but you gave up your guns to Hitler.
"Armed resistance" to the left. Like the NRA ad that wanted people to fight the "violence of lies with the clenched fist of truth". Along with using other words like "assassinate" and "Hitler", it was a thinly veiled threat. Add in op-eds that say a new non-metaphorical civil war is about to start, and the call to arms is pretty damn obvious.:lol: Now you're really grasping at straws.
an incompetent President with serious psychological issues, economic uncertainty and inequality...
That was evident throughout the campaign. When Trump campaigns on "bringing back coal", trashing NAFTA as stealing jobs, holding up that Carrier deal as an example of what he'd do for the underemployed and unemployed American manufacturing workers, etc etc etc. This is speaking to the US in general, not the Charlottesville violence specifically.You got all that from a fight between extreme fringes that this country's leadership immediately spoke out against? Wow!
perhaps it would have been nice to teach Americans more history than they bad, we good, we won.
Let's: the fascists were the bad guys, the antifascists were the good guys. Saying "Germans vs Americans" is generally true but discounts the Americans who supported the Nazis and the Germans who resisted the Nazis.There was literally a neo-nazi rally in Dresden this year. Perhaps you should start by researching who the bad guys were and who the good guys were before spouting nonsense.
There will always be those who snip at any statement, in this particular case I imagine with "he's lining himself up for the presidency." Personally I'm glad Pence condemned them uncritically strongly; it's what Trump should have done.Anyways, Mike Pence called out "white supremacists, neo-nazis, and the KKK". I imagine you guys will be able to find something racist about that too.
And I see a sucker:Ironically, I see a completely different problem from what many of you see. I see the left blindly extrapolating the actions of a few to tens of millions that actually condemned those actions. I see a rise of thought police on the left as they pretend to fight made-up injustices. I see attacks on basic human and constitutional rights, including freedom of speech. I see anti-hate protesters in Boston waving Soviet flags, completely oblivious to the irony. I see cops murdered in revenge for what most often turns out to be justified legal shootings of thugs and criminals, yet the same left decries anyone they disagree with as violent and intolerant. I see the left dividing us based on our race, gender, religion, etc, yet somehow calling it a fight for equality. Sad.
The Soviet flag wavers weren't the ones who killed a person in Charlottesville. The infighting doesn't quite garner the same attention.The biggest difference is that the insanity of the right is on a small scale - it's only a tiny fringe element that clings to white supremacy, Nazism, etc. Meanwhile, the insanity of the left is far more widespread and not confined to an obviously nonsensical minority. On the right, pretty much everyone is speaking out against the white power douches in Charlottesville; on the left, hardly anyone is discussing the Soviet flag-waving masked antifa douches.